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I replaced my 8' single pin fluorescents with these non-ballast single pin
LEDs about four years ago, no problems, terrific light, it was a very good
decision for me:
JESLED T8/T10/T12 8FT LED Tube Light Bulbs, 50W 6000LM, 5000K Daylight
White, 8 Foot Single Pin FA8 LED Fluorescent Replacement for Shops Garage
Light Fixtures, ETL Listed, Remove Ballast (4-Pack) - Amazon.com
<https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074MC1FW3?ref_=3Dppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asi=
n_title_12&th=3D1>
On Mon, Oct 19, 2026 at 10:59=E2=80=AFAM Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.o=
rg>
wrote:
> Just put in some 4' integrated LEDs and get on with life. All other
> options for non-commercial use are a kludge and a time sink. I used these
> in the basement and they're working fine:
>
>
> https://www.lowes.com/pd/Utilitech-4-ft-Light-LED-Strip-Shop-Light/500085=
8987
>
> jim
>
> On Oct 19, 2026, at 1:09 PM, john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> My 30 year old 8' t-12 (single pin) garage fixtures are slowly dying...(4
> total double tube)
> the old t-12s are hard to find and expensive (16-20 bucks a tube)
>
> Want to change to led... lots of options - 8' led tubes are expensive to=
o
> ...
>
> I was gifted a box of 20 4' bi-pin bulbs that work with a ballast...(heat
> sink)
>
> option 1
> if I use these I'd have to change all the tombstones to bi-pin and figure
> out the
> shunted vs non shunted type... AND find the 8' to 4' fixture conversion
> kits (adding the middle tombstones
>
> option 2
> 8' type a led single pin tubes (about the same price as 8' fluorescent)
> and use a ballast
> not great reviews when shipped...
>
> option 3
>
> replace all the crap with the internet specials linkable stick lights an=
d
> hope they work
>
> comments on options ????
>
> questions... when using the ballast type plug and plays... aren't I using
> more electricity using the ballast
> and heating it up... is there any savings here ???
>
>
> please educate the old dummy on best (least expensive) options
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I r=
eplaced my 8' single=C2=A0pin fluorescents with these non-ballast singl=
e pin LEDs about four years ago, no problems, terrific light, it was a very=
good decision for me:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size=
:small"><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074MC1FW3?ref_=3Dppx_hzsearch=
_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_12&th=3D1">JESLED T8/T10/T12 8FT LED Tube Lig=
ht Bulbs, 50W 6000LM, 5000K Daylight White, 8 Foot Single Pin FA8 LED Fluor=
escent Replacement for Shops Garage Light Fixtures, ETL Listed, Remove Ball=
ast (4-Pack) - Amazon.com</a></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmai=
l_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 19, 20=
26 at 10:59=E2=80=AFAM Jim Franklin <<a href=3D"mailto:jamesf@groupwbenc=
h.org">jamesf@groupwbench.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Just put in some 4' integrated LEDs a=
nd get on with life. All other options for non-commercial use are a kludge =
and a time sink. I used these in the basement and they're working fine:=
<div><br></div><div><div style=3D"display:block">=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://w=
ww.lowes.com/pd/Utilitech-4-ft-Light-LED-Strip-Shop-Light/5000858987" targe=
t=3D"_blank">https://www.lowes.com/pd/Utilitech-4-ft-Light-LED-Strip-Shop-L=
ight/5000858987</a></div></div><div style=3D"display:block"><br></div><div =
style=3D"display:block">jim</div><div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv>On Oct 19, 2026, at 1:09 PM, john niolon <<a href=3D"mailto:jniolon@a=
tt.net" target=3D"_blank">jniolon@att.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>
<div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Hi all</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">My 30 year old 8' t-12 (single pin)=C2=A0g=
arage fixtures are slowly dying...(4 total double tube)</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">the old t-12s are hard to find and expensive (=
16-20 bucks a tube)</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Want to change to led... lots of options=C2=A0=
- 8' led tubes are expensive too ... </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">I was gifted a box of 20 4' bi-pin bulbs t=
hat work with a ballast...(heat sink)</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">option 1 </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">if I use these I'd have to change all the =
tombstones to bi-pin and figure out the</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">shunted vs non shunted type...=C2=A0 AND find =
the 8' to 4' fixture conversion kits (adding the middle tombstones<=
/font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">option 2</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">8' type a led single pin tubes (about the =
same price as 8' fluorescent) and use a ballast</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">not great reviews when shipped...</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">option 3</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">replace all the crap with the internet special=
s=C2=A0 linkable stick lights and hope they work</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">comments on options ????</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">questions... when using the ballast type plug =
and plays... aren't I using more electricity using the ballast </font><=
/div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">and heating it up... is there any savings here=
???</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">please educate the old dummy on best (least ex=
pensive) options</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
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