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Just put in some 4' integrated LEDs and get on with life. All other =
options for non-commercial use are a kludge and a time sink. I used =
these in the basement and they're working fine:
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https://www.lowes.com/pd/Utilitech-4-ft-Light-LED-Strip-Shop-Light/5000858=
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jim
> On Oct 19, 2026, at 1:09 PM, john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote:
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> Hi all
> =20
> My 30 year old 8' t-12 (single pin) garage fixtures are slowly =
dying...(4 total double tube)
> the old t-12s are hard to find and expensive (16-20 bucks a tube)
> =20
> Want to change to led... lots of options - 8' led tubes are expensive =
too ...
> =20
> I was gifted a box of 20 4' bi-pin bulbs that work with a =
ballast...(heat sink)
> =20
> option 1
> if I use these I'd have to change all the tombstones to bi-pin and =
figure out the
> shunted vs non shunted type... AND find the 8' to 4' fixture =
conversion kits (adding the middle tombstones
> =20
> option 2
> 8' type a led single pin tubes (about the same price as 8' =
fluorescent) and use a ballast
> not great reviews when shipped...
> =20
> option 3
> =20
> replace all the crap with the internet specials linkable stick lights =
and hope they work
> =20
> comments on options ????
> =20
> questions... when using the ballast type plug and plays... aren't I =
using more electricity using the ballast
> and heating it up... is there any savings here ???
> =20
> =20
> please educate the old dummy on best (least expensive) options
> =20
> =20
> =20
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Just put in some 4'
integrated LEDs and get on with life. All other options for non-commercial use
are a kludge and a time sink. I used these in the basement and they're working
fine:<div><br></div><div><div style="display: block;"> <a
href="https://www.lowes.com/pd/Utilitech-4-ft-Light-LED-Strip-Shop-Light/5000858987";>https://www.lowes.com/pd/Utilitech-4-ft-Light-LED-Strip-Shop-Light/5000858987</a></div></div><div
style="display: block;"><br></div><div style="display:
block;">jim</div><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 19, 2026, at
1:09 PM, john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote:</div><br
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<div><font face="Segoe UI">Hi all</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">My 30 year old 8' t-12 (single pin) garage
fixtures are slowly dying...(4 total double tube)</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">the old t-12s are hard to find and expensive (16-20
bucks a tube)</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">Want to change to led... lots of options - 8'
led tubes are expensive too ... </font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">I was gifted a box of 20 4' bi-pin bulbs that work
with a ballast...(heat sink)</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">option 1 </font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">if I use these I'd have to change all the tombstones
to bi-pin and figure out the</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">shunted vs non shunted type... AND find the 8'
to 4' fixture conversion kits (adding the middle tombstones</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">option 2</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">8' type a led single pin tubes (about the same price
as 8' fluorescent) and use a ballast</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">not great reviews when shipped...</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">option 3</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">replace all the crap with the internet
specials linkable stick lights and hope they work</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">comments on options ????</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">questions... when using the ballast type plug and
plays... aren't I using more electricity using the ballast </font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">and heating it up... is there any savings here
???</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">please educate the old dummy on best (least
expensive) options</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI"></font> </div>
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