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I have changed all the 4' fluorescents in our garage to the eLcheapo (tm)
LED linkable sticks. After 5+ years I've had one fail out of 12. I bought a
few extras when they went on sale. Also (if it matters) no problems with
them working in cold weather. (OK, cold in North Carolina may not be cold
elsewhere but the fluorescents I had would often not work when it was
cold.)
EjR
On Mon, Oct 19, 2026 at 1:17=E2=80=AFPM john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote=
:
> Hi all
>
> My 30 year old 8' t-12 (single pin) garage fixtures are slowly dying...(4
> total double tube)
> the old t-12s are hard to find and expensive (16-20 bucks a tube)
>
> Want to change to led... lots of options - 8' led tubes are expensive to=
o
> ...
>
> I was gifted a box of 20 4' bi-pin bulbs that work with a ballast...(heat
> sink)
>
> option 1
> if I use these I'd have to change all the tombstones to bi-pin and figure
> out the
> shunted vs non shunted type... AND find the 8' to 4' fixture conversion
> kits (adding the middle tombstones
>
> option 2
> 8' type a led single pin tubes (about the same price as 8' fluorescent)
> and use a ballast
> not great reviews when shipped...
>
> option 3
>
> replace all the crap with the internet specials linkable stick lights an=
d
> hope they work
>
> comments on options ????
>
> questions... when using the ballast type plug and plays... aren't I using
> more electricity using the ballast
> and heating it up... is there any savings here ???
>
>
> please educate the old dummy on best (least expensive) options
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">I h=
ave changed all the 4' fluorescents=C2=A0in our garage to the eLcheapo =
(tm) LED linkable sticks. After 5+ years I've had one fail out of 12. I=
bought a few extras when they went on sale. Also (if it matters) no proble=
ms with them working in cold weather. (OK, cold in North Carolina may not b=
e cold elsewhere but the fluorescents I had would often not work when it wa=
s cold.)=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">EjR=C2=A0<=
/div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 19, 2026 at 1:17=E2=80=AFPM john nio=
lon <<a href=3D"mailto:jniolon@att.net";>jniolon@att.net</a>> wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Hi all</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">My 30 year old 8' t-12 (single pin)=C2=A0g=
arage fixtures are slowly dying...(4 total double tube)</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">the old t-12s are hard to find and expensive (=
16-20 bucks a tube)</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Want to change to led... lots of options=C2=A0=
- 8' led tubes are expensive too ... </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">I was gifted a box of 20 4' bi-pin bulbs t=
hat work with a ballast...(heat sink)</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">option 1 </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">if I use these I'd have to change all the =
tombstones to bi-pin and figure out the</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">shunted vs non shunted type...=C2=A0 AND find =
the 8' to 4' fixture conversion kits (adding the middle tombstones<=
/font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">option 2</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">8' type a led single pin tubes (about the =
same price as 8' fluorescent) and use a ballast</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">not great reviews when shipped...</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">option 3</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">replace all the crap with the internet special=
s=C2=A0 linkable stick lights and hope they work</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">comments on options ????</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">questions... when using the ballast type plug =
and plays... aren't I using more electricity using the ballast </font><=
/div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">and heating it up... is there any savings here=
???</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">please educate the old dummy on best (least ex=
pensive) options</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
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