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Re: [Shop-talk] Successfully using the HF Tire Changer

To: shoptalk <>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Successfully using the HF Tire Changer
From: Battmain <>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:31:19 -0800 (PST)
Not comparing anything, but just making fun of his comments.
You see, the demo tire in the video was a soft sided tire. If it 
were a race tire with stiff sidewalls, it would take a little
longer than 10 minutes with a helper. (Not to mention multiple 
tire irons to get the bead in the proper position on the wheel.) I've
used the HF tool. I still have it.

Eventually, I'll have one of the real tire changing machines. I have
been keeping my eye on craigslist. The lower end coats go for
less than $500 here, but I've used those and had the crap scared 
outta' me when the wheel pin let go.  I'll wait for one that has 
the roller helper. Makes it much simpler. Also more expensive


From: Eric J Russell <>
To: Battmain <>; shoptalk <>
 ----- Original Message ----- 
> I want to see him do "two minutes flat" with a race
> tire. It's not possible. :)

Are you comparing a $2000+ tire changing machine to a $59 HF manual tool?

It takes me ~ 15 minutes to change a MC tire. Versus removing the wheel, 
driving to a MC shop, leaving it for them to work on later, then coming back 
the next day to pick it up and having to pay ~ $25 (each). And most shops will 
not mount tires bought on-line but instead want to sell you a tire at full 
retail. On-line prices are 25-50% less including shipping. (MC tires run ~ 
$100-$150 each and typically last 10K-15K miles.)
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