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RE: and now, computer questions...

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Subject: RE: and now, computer questions...
From: scott.hall@comcast.net
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:54:07 +0000
heh.  the video and sound cards were the parts I definitely wanted to get rid 
of.  fwiw, the computer is a vpr matrix, which used to be best buy's house 
brand.  I bought it because it had a raid controller and because the guy said 
it was manufactired entirely with generic parts, so were any one component to 
fail I could replace it with an off-the-shelf item, not have to buy a 
proprietary part (the example he used was sony vaio power supples, which he 
said cost $400 each.)  I wanted to get a guy to build me one from scratch with 
individual parts, but couldn't get it to happen.  the computer is about 2.5 
years old - an eternity for computers, I guess, but it's held up well.

so basically, I should go buy a new computer, swap the old hard drive (if 
possible) onto the new drive, then buy a mb, processor, ram, video and sound 
cards and start replacing parts until the old computer works?  that sounds like 
a new computer.  hmm.

comp usa is looking more tempting.  my concern is that the computer was used 
for work, so potentially there's stuff on there I don't want someone from the 
strip mall looking at.

'course, there's also five years' worth of my son's pictures on there.  those 
will be recovered or I am a dead man.

this is not looking easy.

scott


> 
> > my biggest question is how can/do I test the components?  I have a
> > voltmeter, but it's the standard home/auto kind.  is there a way to
> > tell what's toast without just swapping in new parts?
> 
> The only definitive test is to hook the component up to a working computer and
> see if it works.  The downside is that there is a small chance your bad
> component will damage the good component.
> 
> Odds are good that the motherboard is toast in addition to the power supply, 
>and
> processors have moved so quickly that you'll likely pay more for a MB & RAM to
> support your old processor than a new MB, processor & RAM will cost.
> 
> I've also usually found it cheaper to buy a case with PS than a replacement PS
> to fit my old case.
> 
> With the new PS, MB, processor & RAM in hand, you can try your old video card 
>&
> monitor.  Keep adding components until you find one that either doesn't work, 
>or
> keeps the whole system from working.  It's not rocket science, as you say if 
>you
> can build an engine, you can probably build a computer.  Just go easy on the
> assembly lube ! <g>  (Actually, you do use a special grease between the
> processor and it's heat sink.)
> 
> >  I'd like to at
> > least have a go at it before I pay comp usa $99 just to diagnose the
> > problem.  or am I a moron to even consider it, and these are very
> > delicate parts not to be fooled with by mere mortals?
> 
> Frankly, given the likely amount of damage, and all the potential hassles with
> incompatible parts, I'd say you'd be better off buying a new "bare bones"
> system.  Then you can try connecting your old hard drive in hopes it still
> works, and so on.






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