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RE: WOOT! the tig is here!

To: "Randall" <tr3driver@comcast.net>,
Subject: RE: WOOT! the tig is here!
From: scott.hall@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:39:49 +0000
my bad - that's 300 amps out, not in.

no existing 220v plug in the garage - dryer is in the laundry room, stove 
farther than that.  gonna have to have a plug in the garage.

with the main breaker off, there's still power in the box?  I did not know 
that.  now I'm gonna be afraid to even touch the damn thing.

scott



> 
> > and something to discuss: this is a 300 amp input machine.
> 
> Wow !  Are you sure that's 300 amps input ?  300 out is a good size welder, 
>but
> 300 in is freakin huge (like 1000 out).  For example, the biggest TIG I found 
>on
> Miller's site is the Synchrowave 350, which draws a maximum of 120 amps at 
>220v
> single phase.
> 
> > but can I run a 100 amp breaker off a 200 amp box?
> 
> I believe the answer depends on the box.  AFAIK nothing in the code prevents 
>it,
> but you have to be able to buy a breaker that fits the box in the capacity you
> want.
> 
> >  I can't imagine it being the
> > case, but might the lower current hurt the welder - like a 'brown out'
> > condition?
> 
> Should be no problem, as long as the wire you use will carry the current your
> breaker is rated for.  That keeps the welder from seeing a brown-out, it 
>either
> gets full voltage or nothing.
> 
> >  am I going to need to shut off the house to weld
> 
> Not if you're welding at any reasonable current.
> 
> > I suppose I could let an electrician do this and wire that surge
> > supressor at the same time...but that would be wrong.  and so far I'll
> > be doing good to get somebody out here week after next.  can't wait that
> > long to play with the new shiny-shiny.
> 
> Someone already suggested : buy some suitable connectors and Romex cable at 
>Home
> Depot, make up an adapter/extension cord to run from your dryer (or kitchen
> range) outlet.  Might not be enough current to go to full output on your 
>welder,
> but you're presumably not going to be welding that battleship right off the 
>bat
> either.
> 
> Frankly, I'd leave rewiring the breaker box to an expert.  Even with the main
> breaker off, there are lethal voltages present inside the box, and mistakes 
>can
> be expensive.  If you accidentally bridge the input to the main breaker to
> ground, chances are good that the fuse at the transformer will not blow and
> you'll have an electrical fire on your hands (not to mention the damage to the
> box).  Chances are good that this will not meet with approval from SWMBO nor 
>the
> local fire marshall.






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