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Re: Octain booster and compression ratios

To: "MGB" <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Octain booster and compression ratios
From: "Dave Wood" <djw69@idt.net>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:31:39 -0700
Thanks Dan,

I bit my tongue and decided not to respond.  Out here in the great North
West some of us have a real problem with tree huggers.  My problem is with
do-gooders in general...Most of the autocross and rally cars out here go to
the smaller airports to get aviation gas instead of mixing boosters in with
regular gas and wondering what the final octane will be.

Dave 72 B

Dave 72 B
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Dwelley <ddwelley@excite.com>
To: Max Heim <mvheim@studiolimage.com>; MG List <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, May 22, 2000 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: Octain booster and compression ratios


>You mean to say ...your not running 12:1!!! <G>
>People were burning leaded fuel when I grew up...I turned out ok...
>I was a range instructor in the military...Lots of lead in the air
>there...didn't effect me in any way...the human body can rid itself of a
>portion of lead over a specific period of time. I can't remember the
>specifics off the top of my head but I did know all of the numbers about 12
>years ago.
>
>It's not like the car would be throwing chunks of lead at children.
>Some people just need to try something once...if there isn't any
appreciable
>difference, they say to hell with it and find something else to check out.
>
>I'm all for nature but I'm not some sort of tree hugger..."not that there's
>anything wrong with that!" (J. Seinfeld)
>
>There are a few of us that are running higher compressions in our engines.
>Certainly not 12:1! There are some 10.5:1, 10:1, and 9.5:1. Generally high
>test is good enough for these engines BUT there is the human desire to see
>IF there is any improvement by experimentation. This is how we make the
>advancements in technology. If we stopped wondering WHAT would happen
>IF...technology would cease to advance AND we'd still be burning leaded
>fuel.
>
>Dan Dwelley
>Flame suit on and waiting with fire extiguisher.
>
>
>On Mon, 22 May 2000 11:50:23 -0700, Max Heim wrote:
>
>>  I hope anyone considering this is comfortable with the fact that they'd
>>  be spewing lead into the atmosphere. Maybe you don't know any
children...
>>
>>  Seriously, I have to protest this kind of thinking. Given what we know
>>  now, there is no excuse for using leaded fuel, any more than there is
for
>
>>  using asbestos in classroom insulation. And there is no performance
>>  rationale for using 104 octane fuel in a street MG, anyway, except for
>>  ego gratification. I mean, get real -- who is running 12:1 compression?
>>
>>  Elliott DeGraff had this to say:
>>
>>  >You only need to add 1 gallon of 100LL avgas to a tankful of high test
>>  >unleaded.  The excess lead in the avgas will boost the unleaded to an
>>  >acceptable level.
>>  >
>>  >Elliott DeGraff
>>  >2 71Bs
>>  >
>>  >ATWEDITOR@aol.com wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >> In a message dated 5/18/00 1:02:13 PM, gb@the-bdc.com writes:
>>  >>
>>  >> <<  One day I hope to find someone who sells real 104 octane racing
>>  >> fuel.  I'll run a tank of that and see what happens. >>
>>  >>
>>  >> Here's what some racers used to do, not sure they still do this:  Go
>to your
>>  >> local general aviation airport with a 5-gallon can and have them fill
>it
>>  with
>>  >> Avgas.  There used to be several higher octanes, but if my memory is
>correct
>>  >> the common avgas is still 100 octane.  Word when I used to work at
>airports
>>  >> was that they just mixed the avgas with regular gas, as running pure
>would
>>  >> burn the pistons.  YMMV, and this is all hearsay.
>>  >>
>>  >> Jay Donoghue
>>  >> 72B
>>  >> 72B-GT
>>  >> 66 Mustang
>>  >
>>
>>
>>  --
>>
>>  Max Heim
>>  '66 MGB GHN3L76149
>>  If you're near Mountain View, CA,
>>  it's the red one with the silver bootlid.
>>
>
>
>Dan Dwelley
>77 Midget
>Alexandria, Va.
>
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