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Re: [Healeys] carb damper

To: "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>, healeymanjim <healeymanjim@hansencc.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] carb damper
From: rct2bnc--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 20:54:37 +0000 (UTC)
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 I have also run into this problem, but not with any of my Austin Healeys. =
I have a tri-carb set up on an 1959 AC Ace. When I opened the carbs to chec=
k and add oil, there was only a brass cap with no damper mechanism. Also af=
ter removing the chamber I found no spring and a solid piston rod with no p=
lace to put the oil. Luckily, I have a 2003 SU reference manual for most Br=
itish cars using SU carbs. Each make is broken down by year, type of carb, =
needles etc. but includes all miscellaneous parts like damper, jet, float, =
service kit #s, and more. It listed at 1.9 litre Weller six-cylinder engine=
 from 1933- 1952 - all the triple carb set ups. Under damper it states: CAP=
; for piston spring there is no entry. Without going through the whole manu=
al, you can see that many, many pre-1952 cars, such as: Alvis, Aston-Martin=
, Armstorng-Siddeley, Bentley-Rolls Royce, Frazer-Nash have CAP and no spri=
ngs. However, under the listings for all Austin Healey cars (including Spri=
tes) from 1952 - 1974, all carbs on those cars show dampers and springs, wi=
thout exception. This includes 1954-56 100 M Le Mans and 1955-56 100 S 4 cy=
l cars.=C2=A0
As for the CAP unit, the manual shows 7 variants, from plain brass hexagon,=
 some knurled brass round and some with stamps for OIL RESERVOIR or THIN OI=
L. They also list 5 different dampers with both brass and plastic caps.=C2=
=A0
I can scan the Austin Healey section and attach for the group, if there is =
interest.
Ben Cohen
BN1BN7BJ8


    On Tuesday, December 24, 2024 at 10:17:52 AM MST, healeymanjim via Heal=
eys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:  =20

 ran into something have not seen before.=C2=A0 cleaning the carbs on an MG=
TC and discovered there is no damper.=C2=A0 there is a plastic cap and a 3/=
16 hole approx 1/4 inch deep in top of piston rod.=C2=A0 Moss shows a dampe=
r and so does the workshop manual.=C2=A0 any ideas what i have here?
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I have also run into this pr=
oblem, but not with any of my Austin Healeys. I have a tri-carb set up on a=
n 1959 AC Ace. When I opened the carbs to check and add oil, there was only=
 a brass cap with no damper mechanism. Also after removing the chamber I fo=
und no spring and a solid piston rod with no place to put the oil. Luckily,=
 I have a 2003 SU reference manual for most British cars using SU carbs. Ea=
ch make is broken down by year, type of carb, needles etc. but includes all=
 miscellaneous parts like damper, jet, float, service kit #s, and more. It =
listed at 1.9 litre Weller six-cylinder engine from 1933- 1952 - all the tr=
iple carb set ups. Under damper it states: CAP; for piston spring there is =
no entry. Without going through the whole manual, you can see that many, ma=
ny pre-1952 cars, such as: Alvis, Aston-Martin, Armstorng-Siddeley, Bentley=
-Rolls Royce, Frazer-Nash have CAP and no springs. However, under the listi=
ngs for all Austin Healey cars (including Sprites) from 1952 - 1974, all ca=
rbs on those cars show dampers and springs, without exception. This include=
s 1954-56 100 M Le Mans and 1955-56 100 S 4 cyl cars.&nbsp;</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse">As for the CAP unit, the manual shows 7 variants, from plain brass hex=
agon, some knurled brass round and some with stamps for OIL RESERVOIR or TH=
IN OIL. They also list 5 different dampers with both brass and plastic caps=
.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" data-setdir=3D"false">I can scan the Austin Healey section and attach f=
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">ran into something have not seen befo=
re.&nbsp; cleaning the carbs on an MGTC and discovered there is no damper.&=
nbsp; there is a plastic cap and a 3/16 hole approx 1/4 inch deep in top of=
 piston rod.&nbsp; Moss shows a damper and so does the workshop manual.&nbs=
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