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Re: [Healeys] carb damper

To: healeymanjim <healeymanjim@hansencc.net>, AH Mail List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] carb damper
From: Al Fuller <alfuller194@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 09:21:51 -0800
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Yeah, apparently the early cars didn't have dampers. They used a heavier
piston instead. Maybe this car is one of those. More info at The MG
Experience...

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Best Regards,
Al Fuller

On Tue, Dec 24, 2024, 10:37=E2=80=AFPM healeymanjim <healeymanjim@hansencc.=
net>
wrote:

> there is no rod...   the damper is solid metal.  there is no tube to put =
a
> damper like on a healey in there.  still confused.
>
> >  -------Original Message-------
> >  From: Al Fuller <alfuller194@gmail.com>
> >  To: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
> >  Cc: healeymanjim <healeymanjim@hansencc.net>, healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net>
> >  Subject: Re: [Healeys] carb damper
> >  Sent: Dec 24 '24 12:45
> >
> >  Jim: what he said...
> >
> >  The damper rod and piston might still be down there in the damper oil!
> >  If not, someone likely had the backfire problem, the rod came out
> >  through the plastic and they removed it.
> >
> >  I'm not familiar with the clearance between the engine and bonnet on
> >  that car, but you might look at the underside of the bonnet for a mark
> >  that would confirm the theory.
> >
> >  Either way, it looks like you need to get a damper for them.
> >
> >  ________________
> >  Sent from my phone
> >  Best Regards,
> >  Al Fuller
> >
> >  On Tue, Dec 24, 2024, 10:22=E2=80=AFAM richard mayor <boyracer466@gmai=
l.com>
> >  wrote:
> >
> >  > On occasion I have seen dampers with plastic caps that have the
> >  > steel rod protruding through the top of the cap. This is caused
> >  > when the engine has backfired through the carburetors and the piston
> >  > and damper are driven upwards. This drives the damper rod through
> >  > the plastic cap. You will never see this with the dampers with
> >  > brass caps.
> >  >
> >  > I suspect this is what started the issue with your damper before the
> >  > previous owner made it even worse.
> >  >
> >  > Richard Mayor
> >  > boyracer466@gmail.com
> >  >
> >  >> On Dec 24, 2024, at 9:02=E2=80=AFAM, healeymanjim via Healeys
> >  >> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >  >>
> >  >> ran into something have not seen before. cleaning the carbs on an
> >  >> MGTC and discovered there is no damper. there is a plastic cap
> >  >> and a 3/16 hole approx 1/4 inch deep in top of piston rod. Moss
> >  >> shows a damper and so does the workshop manual. any ideas what i
> >  >> have here?
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Yeah, apparently the early cars didn&#39;t have damp=
ers. They used a heavier piston instead. Maybe this car is one of those. Mo=
re info at The MG Experience...</div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail=3D"=
gmail_signature">________________<br>Sent from my phone <br>Best Regards,<b=
r>Al Fuller</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 24, 2024, 10:37=E2=80=AF=
PM healeymanjim &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeymanjim@hansencc.net";>healeymanj=
im@hansencc.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">ther=
e is no rod...=C2=A0 =C2=A0the damper is solid metal.=C2=A0 there is no tub=
e to put a damper like on a healey in there.=C2=A0 still confused.<br>
<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 -------Original Message-------<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 From: Al Fuller &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 To: richard mayor &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">boyracer466@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Cc: healeymanjim &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeymanjim@hansencc.net=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeymanjim@hansencc.net</a>&gt;, h=
ealeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Subject: Re: [Healeys] carb damper<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Sent: Dec 24 &#39;24 12:45<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Jim: what he said...<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 The damper rod and piston might still be down there in the dampe=
r oil!<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 If not, someone likely had the backfire problem, the rod came ou=
t<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 through the plastic and they removed it.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 I&#39;m not familiar with the clearance between the engine and b=
onnet on<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 that car, but you might look at the underside of the bonnet for =
a mark<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 that would confirm the theory.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Either way, it looks like you need to get a damper for them.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 ________________<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Sent from my phone<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Best Regards,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Al Fuller<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 On Tue, Dec 24, 2024, 10:22=E2=80=AFAM richard mayor &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">boyr=
acer466@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 wrote:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; On occasion I have seen dampers with plastic caps that have=
 the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; steel rod protruding through the top of the cap. This is ca=
used<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; when the engine has backfired through the carburetors and t=
he piston<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; and damper are driven upwards. This drives the damper rod t=
hrough<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; the plastic cap. You will never see this with the dampers w=
ith<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; brass caps.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; I suspect this is what started the issue with your damper b=
efore the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; previous owner made it even worse.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; Richard Mayor<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; <a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer">boyracer466@gmail.com</a><br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt; On Dec 24, 2024, at 9:02=E2=80=AFAM, healeymanjim via H=
ealeys<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt; ran into something have not seen before. cleaning the c=
arbs on an<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt; MGTC and discovered there is no damper. there is a plas=
tic cap<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt; and a 3/16 hole approx 1/4 inch deep in top of piston r=
od. Moss<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt; shows a damper and so does the workshop manual. any ide=
as what i<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt; have here?<br>
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