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Mosport is a great track and always a good time. My first laps on it =
years
back were with what would be group 6 cars if they were in an SVRA =
event.
Talk about feeling like a bug on the windshield. What a track to develop =
a
rhythm on. From turn 1 through 5b you=92re on your toes, short nap down =
the
back then the rapid sequence of 8, 9 and 10. I love it, but certainly =
more
enjoyable with all four tires on the deck. Hard to steer while on the
rollbar!
=20
Just to clarify on the Sprite incident , I have since been assured by =
Jack
Woehrle if I had reported the punt at the Glen to him or Carl directly =
it
would have been investigated even though the other party had booked out
quickly before I could find him. Hopefully none of us will have that
situation again.
=20
Russ
=20
From: Bill Babcock [mailto:Billb@bnj.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:15 PM
To: Russ Moore
Cc: Friends of Triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen The Legends Speak The FOT
=20
I'm very familiar with turn 8 at Mosport, a fine place for an accident. =
I
never went through that turn the same way twice. If it has an apex I =
never
found it. I'm glad you didn't hang up your gloves, see you at the Glen.=20
=20
On Aug 27, 2008, at 12:07 PM, Russ Moore wrote:
Bill,
I had an incident similar to yours two years ago in my Spitfire at turn =
8 at
Mosport. I had passed a driver in a borrowed Sprite and she tried a =
Bonsai
pass inside me on 8 which is a very high speed sweeping right hander. =
She
lost it and hit her brakes. Her left front corner hit my right rear and =
I
was instantly on my rollbar. I am just now getting all back together and
will be at Watkins. I have seen over the past 19 years how some folks =
suffer
from the red mist syndrome and cause incidents they seemingly can get =
away
with. This latest one almost caused me to hang up my gloves. 5 years ago =
at
the Glen I had an orange Sprite punt me in turn 7. At the time I thought =
I
had hit oil but the dent and orange paint revealed otherwise. SVRA let =
it go
because =93they didn=92t witness it=94.
In reading your accounting of the event it was like d=E9j=E0-vu. The =
other
driver the day after blamed me for the incident and I could never get =
VARAC
to take any action. Yep, her left front corner and my right rear, =
=85=85=85=85=85=85=85 I
had to replace the entire front end, the whole rollbar structure and =
build a
new engine all because she didn=92t like being passed. Jeez.
=20
In any case, here=92s to a safe and enjoyable weekend at The Glen this =
year.
Best regards
=20
Russ Moore
Spitfire #49
=20
From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Bill Babcock
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 2:22 PM
To: BillDentin@aol.com
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net; fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen The Legends Speak The FOT
=20
It was 150 cars last year, and everyone that wanted to go, got to go. =
This
year as one of the featured elements we might get some special =
treatment. I
doubt they'll have us leading off the thing, but they might at least =
stick
us all together.=20
=20
It was really fun, I wouldn't miss it. And Diane will need a ride for =
anyone
that has an open seat (they wouldn't let her sit on Peyote's fuel cell, =
I
can't imagine why). She is in NYC this week, visiting a friend, but she
packed her leather helmet and goggles. Pictures, here, but a warning =
too,
there are pictures of an injured LBC (more injured than I thought at the
time. Tony Garmey is STILL working on Peyote to get it ready for Watkins
Glen. I'm glad I took it to Tony, it wouldn't have been ready, and for =
many,
MANY reasons I don't want to miss this race). If you have a weak stomach =
you
probably want to have some Mylanta handy. Also I made a disparaging =
remark
about the SVRA's handling of the accident that I apologized for later. I
left the remark in place because the apology wouldn't make sense without =
it.
http://www.allaluminumtour.com/?p=3D263
=20
Bill
=20
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Mosport
is a great track and always a good time. My first laps on it years back =
were
with what would be group 6 cars if they were =A0in an SVRA event. Talk =
about
feeling like a bug on the windshield. What a track to develop a rhythm =
on. From
turn 1 through 5b you’re on your toes, short nap down the back =
then the
rapid sequence of 8, 9 and 10. I love it, but certainly more enjoyable =
with all
four tires on the deck. Hard to steer while on the =
rollbar!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Just
to clarify on the Sprite incident , I have since been assured by Jack =
W</span><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>oehrle if I =
had
reported the punt at the Glen to him or Carl directly it would have been
investigated even though the other party had booked out quickly before I =
could
find him. Hopefully none of us will have that situation =
again.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Russ</span><s=
pan
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p>
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0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bill =
Babcock
[mailto:Billb@bnj.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Russ Moore<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Friends of Triumph<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen The Legends Speak The =
FOT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>I'm very familiar with turn 8 at Mosport, a fine =
place for
an accident. I never went through that turn the same way twice. If it =
has an
apex I never found it. I'm glad you didn't hang up your gloves, see you =
at the
Glen. <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>On Aug 27, 2008, at 12:07 PM, Russ Moore =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Bill,</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I had an incident similar to yours two years ago in my =
Spitfire
at turn 8 at Mosport. I had passed a driver in a borrowed Sprite =
and she
tried a Bonsai pass inside me on 8 which is a very high speed sweeping =
right
hander. She lost it and hit her brakes. Her left front corner hit my =
right rear
and I was instantly on my rollbar. I am just now getting all back =
together and
will be at Watkins. I have seen over the past 19 years how some folks =
suffer
from the red mist syndrome and cause incidents they seemingly can get =
away
with. This latest one almost caused me to hang up my gloves. 5 years ago =
at the
Glen I had an orange Sprite punt me in turn 7. At the time I thought I =
had hit
oil but the dent and orange paint revealed otherwise. SVRA let it go =
because
“they didn’t witness it”.</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In reading your accounting of the event it was like =
d=E9j=E0-vu. The
other driver the day after blamed me for the incident and I could never =
get
VARAC to take any action. Yep, her left front corner and my right rear,
………………… I had to replace the =
entire
front end, the whole rollbar structure and build a new engine all =
because she
didn’t like being passed. Jeez.</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In any case, here’s to a safe and enjoyable weekend =
at The
Glen this year.</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Best regards</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Russ Moore</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Spitfire #49</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
</span></span><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
<a
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>=
[<a
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.=
net</a>]<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span></b>Bill Babcock<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Wednesday, =
August
27, 2008 2:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a
href=3D"mailto:BillDentin@aol.com";>BillDentin@aol.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>;<span=
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Re: =
[Fot] Watkins
Glen The Legends Speak The FOT</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>It was 150 cars last =
year,
and everyone that wanted to go, got to go. This year as one of the
featured elements we might get some special treatment. I doubt they'll =
have us
leading off the thing, but they might at least stick us all =
together. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>It was really fun, I =
wouldn't miss
it. And Diane will need a ride for anyone that has an open seat (they =
wouldn't
let her sit on Peyote's fuel cell, I can't imagine why). She is in NYC =
this
week, visiting a friend, but she packed her leather helmet and goggles.
Pictures, here, but a warning too, there are pictures of an injured LBC =
(more
injured than I thought at the time. Tony Garmey is STILL working on =
Peyote to
get it ready for Watkins Glen. I'm glad I took it to Tony, it wouldn't =
have
been ready, and for many, MANY reasons I don't want to miss this race). =
If you
have a weak stomach you probably want to have some Mylanta handy. Also I =
made a
disparaging remark about the SVRA's handling of the accident that I =
apologized
for later. I left the remark in place because the apology wouldn't make =
sense
without it. <a =
href=3D"http://www.allaluminumtour.com/?p=3D263";>http://www.allaluminumto=
ur.com/?p=3D263</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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