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I'm very familiar with turn 8 at Mosport, a fine place for an =20
accident. I never went through that turn the same way twice. If it has =20=
an apex I never found it. I'm glad you didn't hang up your gloves, see =20=
you at the Glen.
On Aug 27, 2008, at 12:07 PM, Russ Moore wrote:
> Bill,
> I had an incident similar to yours two years ago in my Spitfire at =20
> turn 8 at Mosport. I had passed a driver in a borrowed Sprite and =20
> she tried a Bonsai pass inside me on 8 which is a very high speed =20
> sweeping right hander. She lost it and hit her brakes. Her left =20
> front corner hit my right rear and I was instantly on my rollbar. I =20=
> am just now getting all back together and will be at Watkins. I have =20=
> seen over the past 19 years how some folks suffer from the red mist =20=
> syndrome and cause incidents they seemingly can get away with. This =20=
> latest one almost caused me to hang up my gloves. 5 years ago at the =20=
> Glen I had an orange Sprite punt me in turn 7. At the time I thought =20=
> I had hit oil but the dent and orange paint revealed otherwise. SVRA =20=
> let it go because =93they didn=92t witness it=94.
> In reading your accounting of the event it was like d=E9j=E0-vu. The =20=
> other driver the day after blamed me for the incident and I could =20
> never get VARAC to take any action. Yep, her left front corner and =20
> my right rear, =85=85=85=85=85=85=85 I had to replace the entire front =
end, the =20
> whole rollbar structure and build a new engine all because she =20
> didn=92t like being passed. Jeez.
>
> In any case, here=92s to a safe and enjoyable weekend at The Glen this =
=20
> year.
> Best regards
>
> Russ Moore
> Spitfire #49
>
> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] =20=
> On Behalf Of Bill Babcock
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 2:22 PM
> To: BillDentin@aol.com
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net; fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen The Legends Speak The FOT
>
> It was 150 cars last year, and everyone that wanted to go, got to =20
> go. This year as one of the featured elements we might get some =20
> special treatment. I doubt they'll have us leading off the thing, =20
> but they might at least stick us all together.
>
> It was really fun, I wouldn't miss it. And Diane will need a ride =20
> for anyone that has an open seat (they wouldn't let her sit on =20
> Peyote's fuel cell, I can't imagine why). She is in NYC this week, =20
> visiting a friend, but she packed her leather helmet and goggles. =20
> Pictures, here, but a warning too, there are pictures of an injured =20=
> LBC (more injured than I thought at the time. Tony Garmey is STILL =20
> working on Peyote to get it ready for Watkins Glen. I'm glad I took =20=
> it to Tony, it wouldn't have been ready, and for many, MANY reasons =20=
> I don't want to miss this race). If you have a weak stomach you =20
> probably want to have some Mylanta handy. Also I made a disparaging =20=
> remark about the SVRA's handling of the accident that I apologized =20
> for later. I left the remark in place because the apology wouldn't =20
> make sense without it. http://www.allaluminumtour.com/?p=3D263
>
> Bill
>
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I'm very familiar with turn 8 =
at Mosport, a fine place for an accident. I never went through that turn =
the same way twice. If it has an apex I never found it. I'm glad you =
didn't hang up your gloves, see you at the =
Glen. <div><br><div><div>On Aug 27, 2008, at 12:07 PM, Russ Moore =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: =
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vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div =
class=3D"Section1"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
">Bill,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I had =
an incident similar to yours two years ago in my Spitfire at turn 8 at =
Mosport. I had passed a driver in a borrowed Sprite and she tried =
a Bonsai pass inside me on 8 which is a very high speed sweeping right =
hander. She lost it and hit her brakes. Her left front corner hit my =
right rear and I was instantly on my rollbar. I am just now getting all =
back together and will be at Watkins. I have seen over the past 19 years =
how some folks suffer from the red mist syndrome and cause incidents =
they seemingly can get away with. This latest one almost caused me to =
hang up my gloves. 5 years ago at the Glen I had an orange Sprite punt =
me in turn 7. At the time I thought I had hit oil but the dent and =
orange paint revealed otherwise. SVRA let it go because =93they didn=92t =
witness it=94.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">In =
reading your accounting of the event it was like d=E9j=E0-vu. The other =
driver the day after blamed me for the incident and I could never get =
VARAC to take any action. Yep, her left front corner and my right rear, =
=85=85=85=85=85=85=85 I had to replace the entire front end, the whole =
rollbar structure and build a new engine all because she didn=92t like =
being passed. Jeez.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">In any case, here=92s to a safe =
and enjoyable weekend at The Glen this year.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Best =
regards<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Russ =
Moore<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
">Spitfire #49<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style=3D"border-right-style: =
none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: =
initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; =
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0in; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: =
0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, =
sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a> =
[<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; =
">mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Bill =
Babcock<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, August 27, 2008 =
2:22 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a=
href=3D"mailto:BillDentin@aol.com"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; ">BillDentin@aol.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; ">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; =
">fot@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen The =
Legends Speak The FOT<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">It was 150 cars last =
year, and everyone that wanted to go, got to go. This year as one =
of the featured elements we might get some special treatment. I doubt =
they'll have us leading off the thing, but they might at least stick us =
all together. <o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">It was really fun, I =
wouldn't miss it. And Diane will need a ride for anyone that has an open =
seat (they wouldn't let her sit on Peyote's fuel cell, I can't imagine =
why). She is in NYC this week, visiting a friend, but she packed her =
leather helmet and goggles. Pictures, here, but a warning too, there are =
pictures of an injured LBC (more injured than I thought at the time. =
Tony Garmey is STILL working on Peyote to get it ready for Watkins Glen. =
I'm glad I took it to Tony, it wouldn't have been ready, and for many, =
MANY reasons I don't want to miss this race). If you have a weak stomach =
you probably want to have some Mylanta handy. Also I made a disparaging =
remark about the SVRA's handling of the accident that I apologized for =
later. I left the remark in place because the apology wouldn't make =
sense without it. <a href=3D"http://www.allaluminumtour.com/?p=3D263"=
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">http://www.allaluminumtour.com/?p=3D263</a><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><=
div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; ">Bill<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
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