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Re: cheap fuel injection

To: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>, <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: cheap fuel injection
From: "Fred Schroeder" <roadster@texoma.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 23:22:33 -0500
You and me both, Mike!  I'm quite partial to my SU's.

Best regards,

Fred Schroeder
'70 2000
SRL311-13359
TDROC
Home page http://home.texoma.net/~sitsinwest/

----- Original Message -----
From: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
To: "Thomas - Sweden" <csp311@telia.com>; "ian miller"
<datsun661600@hotmail.com>
Cc: <dneuman@quark.sfsu.edu>; <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: cheap fuel injection


> What I find so appealing about old cars is their simplicity w/o engine
bays
> covered in vacuum lines, electrical senders and other various stuff that
> makes the ground impossible to see. If I want all that FI crap I can
always
> use my Miata or look at any jap car with wires and hoses going all over
the
> place.
>
> BMWs and Mercedes have the most organized bays and the jap cars the least
> appealing ones.
>
> Maybe I just don't "get it" or I'm an old fart but I like the Roadsters
> simple - kinda like the way my brain works :)
>
> I like tinkering with SUs and I enjoy youngsters who just stare at them
and
> say "What the f--k are those?" and a few Nissan mechanics too!
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas - Sweden" <csp311@telia.com>
> To: "ian miller" <datsun661600@hotmail.com>
> Cc: <dneuman@quark.sfsu.edu>; <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 6:21 PM
> Subject: Re: cheap fuel injection
>
>
> > The easiest thing to do is to get a Bosch LH-jetronic
> > (no ignition in this system) with 4 injectors (4-cyl)
> > and make or buy an inlet manifold with a single 2-2.5"
> > throttle body. Or just get the Bosch components
> > and buy an aftermarket control unit to run the
> > engine. There are systems that will use an oxygen
> > sensor to set up most of the fuel and timing maps.
> > Camshafts with long duration/overlap would need a
> > throttle for each cylinder. If twin Solex are replaced
> > the throttles should be slightly smaller size. Like
> > changing from 2x44 mm Solex to 40mm throttles.
> > While doing this on some 280Z engines the critical
> > duration was about 290 degrees depending on lobe
> > center angle, before the single throttle body manifold
> > had problems with rough running at highway speeds.
> > Nismo rally camshaft (296 degrees) was too much for
> > a single throttle body on the L28.
> >
> > I have been working with Bosch FI since the D-jetronic
> > of the early 1970's. Carbs are "black art" to me. I also
> > find driveability and torque to be better with FI. However
> > the Solex type sound is difficult to beat.
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> > ian miller wrote:
> >
> > > I have seen this particular EFI...truth is as his web page suggest it
> really
> > > isn't for performance applications.  $100 is very cheap, however I
think
> you
> > > will find all sorts of hidden cost till it is installed.  Truth
betold,
> the
> > > SU's probably work much better than any batch fire system.  This
website
> > > just goes to show that making your own ECU is not as much of a black
art
> as
> > > some may think.  I know several people who have built their own
systems,
> > > even tuneable and sequential ones.  It just takes a while to work all
> the
> > > bugs out of the logic.
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > > >From: Daniel Neuman <dneuman@quark.sfsu.edu>
> > > >Reply-To: Daniel Neuman <dneuman@quark.sfsu.edu>
> > > >To: csp311@telia.com
> > > >CC: datsunmike@nyc.rr.com (datsunmike), andycost@att.net (Andy Cost),
> > > >datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> > > >Subject: cheap fuel injection
> > > >Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:29:13 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >Hello All,
> > > >       You really don't need to spend a million dollars to add fuel
> injection
> > > >to a car.  These guys are selling a kit that you have to put
toghether
> for
> > > >like $100 bucks.
> > > >  http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html
> > > >
> > > >They also have a active yahoo group that talks about it.
> > > >For lots of how-to's on how to add fuel injection to a car look here.
> > > >http://www.sdsefi.com/tech.html
> > > >they even tell you how to make the fuel injector bosses from scratch!
> > > >
> > > >       Daniel 69 2000
> > > >       Oakland CA
> > > >
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