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Re: U20 timing stuff

To: "Thomas - Sweden" <csp311@telia.com>, <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: U20 timing stuff
From: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 06:31:25 -0400
Or an engine swap.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas - Sweden" <csp311@telia.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: U20 timing stuff


> Nissan will trash all the tools and molds because they
> want you to buy a new Altima and not drive around
> in an old Datsun. ;-)
>
> There are most likely sources in Japan for new old parts
> but unless you have the right contacts it's a closed world
> for the rest of us.
>
> In the end you will be making this investment choise,
> a new cam chain set or a secondhand Ferrari.
>
> Thomas
>
> Andrew Murphy wrote:
>
> > I seem to remember a vendor telling me that Nissan would not do this
because
> > they originally outsourced the manufacture of the timing components and
will
> > honor the contracts even after the demise of the company or products.
> >
> > So unless you can contact the outsource company and convince them to
fork
> > them over (not gonna happen) you are out of luck.
> >
> > Andrew Murphy
> > SoCalROC
> >
> > From: Mitch Planck <mitch.planck@mail.ias.net>
> > To: 'Andrew Murphy' <solex67@hotmail.com>, "'orangedawg@hotmail.com'"
> > <orangedawg@hotmail.com>, "'datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net'"
> > <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: RE: U20 timing stuff
> > Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 16:47:15 -0400
> >
> > In reading this email, I had the idea about this that has a small chance
of
> > solving this. Basically the problem is getting the molds and machining
to
> > produce the timing components. Has anyone ever tried contacting the
> > manufacturing plant where these cars were made in Japan to see if the
master
> > molds are avaliable? I don't know if auto companies hold onto stuff like
> > this or just trash it after awhile, but it would be worth a shot.
> > http://www.nissan-global.com is the company website and indicates that
the
> > plant in Oppama was built in 1920 or so and seems to be the oldest
plant. If
> > someone on the list with some Japanese speaking skills called them up
(Tel:
> > 0468-67-5000) maybe we could find out... Unless someone has further
> > knowledge on this, it's probably at least worth a shot.
> >
> > Mitch Planck
> > '69 1600
> > '70 1600, sans body
> > Chelsea, MI
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Andrew Murphy
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:44 PM
> > To: orangedawg@hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: U20 timing stuff
> >
> > Allen,
> >
> > It's virtually impossible to find individual U20 timing components for
sale.
> >
> > Once in a great while you will see some timing stuff on ebay but the
vendors
> >
> > generally don't sell the individual components any more as they are so
rare.
> >
> > I recently forked over a sizeable chunk of money for a complete set.
When I
> > rebuild my engine, I am keeping all of my timing stuff for spares.
> >
> > As for finding gears and tensioners, well those are the really hard to
find
> > items. The chains and guides are more available but it's the tensioners
and
> > gears that are so rare and difficult to reproduce. I have talked with
all
> > the vendors and they pretty much say the same thing- "It's not going to
be
> > cost effective to build the reproduction timing components because
someone
> > will need to foot the bill for the molds and machining. As soon as that
is
> > done, it would be a simple matter to undercut the price and steal the
> > business. Sad but true."
> >
> > My advice would be to look for a U20 engine that is complete and for
sale.
> > Check the timing components and see if they are in decent shape. It
would
> > also be good to have the rest of the U20 engine there for spare parts. I
am
> > doing this with my U20 engine. Any part replaced will be kept for
spares.
> >
> > FWIW
> >
> > Andrew Murphy
> > SoCalROC
> >
> > From: "Allen Blackmon" <orangedawg@hotmail.com>
> > Reply-To: "Allen Blackmon" <orangedawg@hotmail.com>
> > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> > Subject: U20 timing stuff
> > Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 18:03:45 +0000
> >
> > To List,
> >
> > Horror upon horrors, but a very knowledgable lister took a look at my
timing
> > gears and upper tensioner and announced that they need to be replaced.
> > Curses!!  Anyone got any info for me?  Particularly jackshaft and am
gears
> > as well as upper tensioner?  Perhaps a real good used set.  I've found a
> > crank gear and I've got chains, just need the above.  Anyone switched
over
> > to toothed gears and belts?  Anyone interested in that?
> >
> > Allen
> > 1970 2000
> >
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