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RE: Roadster styling (was originality thread)

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Subject: RE: Roadster styling (was originality thread)
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow@attbi.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 21:30:23 -0800
Goertz designed the BMW 507 but had nothing to do with the Datsun roadster.

Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Chris
> Robertson
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 8:02 PM
> To: ambradley@yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: Roadster styling (was originality thread)
>
>
> OK, I feel like I'm having an Alheimer's moment.  Has anyone else heard the
> story about the design of the BMW 507 haveing something to do with the
> design of the Roadster?  Not that one was inspired by the other, but
> something like the designers had a connection.  I can't remember where I
> read it.
>
> Chris
>
>
> >From: Adam Bradley <ambradley@yahoo.com>
> >To: Chris Robertson <ckrobertson@hotmail.com>, gsglasgow@attbi.com,
> >datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> >Subject: RE: Roadster styling (was originality thread)
> >Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:41:48 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >Our beloved Roadster was designed by Hidehiro Iizuka.  There is a very
> >good page about the design of the 1500 (some prototypes labeled 1200)
> >at <http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Prototypes.htm>
> >
> >
> >--- Chris Robertson <ckrobertson@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > I read years ago that the designer(s) of the BMW 507 had something to
> > > do
> > > with the roadster.  Can anyone confirm this or provide more details?
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow@attbi.com>
> > > >Reply-To: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow@attbi.com>
> > > >To: " roadster List" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > > >Subject: RE: Roadster styling (was originality thread)
> > > >Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 17:38:53 -0800
> > > >
> > > >If you look at Hidehiro IIzuka's early stying sketches as reproduced
> > > in
> > > >Phill
> > > >Brook's (excellent) book, it appears that the tailights and
> > > relatively flat
> > > >rear
> > > >panel were part of the design from the very beginning. I think the
> > > >taillights
> > > >have a rather jet-exhaust look, which was quite common in that era.
> > > >
> > > >Of course, the panel isn't completely flat but rather has some
> > > interesting
> > > >contours, which I'm sure has caused no end of grief to
> > > >less-than-knowledgeable
> > > >body men.
> > > >
> > > >By 1969 Triumph had picked up the flat rear panel idea in the
> > > >Michelotti/Karmann
> > > >designed TR6, which I always thought looked great. In fact, at one
> > > time I
> > > >painted the rear panel on my roadster flat black like the Triumph
> > > (partly
> > > >to
> > > >hide corrosion).
> > > >
> > > >Gordon Glasgow
> > > >Renton, WA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> > > > > [mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of snyler
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 5:08 PM
> > > > > To: Mark Sedlack; roadster List
> > > > > Subject: Roadster styling (was originality thread)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark Sedlack wrote
> > > > >
> > > > > >However, I personally have never liked the "flat" rear-end panel
> > > on the
> > > > > >Roadster, and have always suspected it was due primarily to ease
> > > of
> > > > > >manufacture, rather than a planned styling detail.
> > > > > I've wondered about the back recently myself.  Perhaps it's a
> > > cost
> > > >thing,
> > > > > perhaps the roadster was ahead of its time, anticipating the
> > > Kamm-back
> > > > > styling of the late 60s.  I used to think the taillights were
> > > stuck
> > > > > on...items pulled from the Nissan parts bin, but they're unique
> > > to the
> > > > > roadster.  If they'd used Bluebird  (311) taillights of the era
> > > (which
> > > > > look like they might fit)  there'd be much more of an MGB
> > > resemblance.
> > > >I
> > > > > know the Roadster had its debut a year earlier, but it's hard
> > > enough to
> > > > > convince folks of the order of appearance as it is.
> > > > > -Marc T.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
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> > > > > 1965 L-320 #L320 013642
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