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Re: Roadster styling (was originality thread)

To: "Chris Robertson" <ckrobertson@hotmail.com>, <gsglasgow@attbi.com>,
Subject: Re: Roadster styling (was originality thread)
From: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 21:03:02 -0500
Count Albrecht Goetz designed the Silvia - CSP series and had a major hand
in the design of the 240 although Nissan denied his involvement for many
years.

I had the pleasure of having an interview with him about 20 years ago at his
studio which was located close to where I worked.

He had nothing to do with the Roadster.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Robertson" <ckrobertson@hotmail.com>
To: <gsglasgow@attbi.com>; <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 8:51 PM
Subject: RE: Roadster styling (was originality thread)


> I read years ago that the designer(s) of the BMW 507 had something to do
> with the roadster.  Can anyone confirm this or provide more details?
>
> Chris
>
>
> >From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow@attbi.com>
> >Reply-To: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow@attbi.com>
> >To: " roadster List" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> >Subject: RE: Roadster styling (was originality thread)
> >Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 17:38:53 -0800
> >
> >If you look at Hidehiro IIzuka's early stying sketches as reproduced in
> >Phill
> >Brook's (excellent) book, it appears that the tailights and relatively
flat
> >rear
> >panel were part of the design from the very beginning. I think the
> >taillights
> >have a rather jet-exhaust look, which was quite common in that era.
> >
> >Of course, the panel isn't completely flat but rather has some
interesting
> >contours, which I'm sure has caused no end of grief to
> >less-than-knowledgeable
> >body men.
> >
> >By 1969 Triumph had picked up the flat rear panel idea in the
> >Michelotti/Karmann
> >designed TR6, which I always thought looked great. In fact, at one time I
> >painted the rear panel on my roadster flat black like the Triumph (partly
> >to
> >hide corrosion).
> >
> >Gordon Glasgow
> >Renton, WA
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of snyler
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 5:08 PM
> > > To: Mark Sedlack; roadster List
> > > Subject: Roadster styling (was originality thread)
> > >
> > >
> > > Mark Sedlack wrote
> > >
> > > >However, I personally have never liked the "flat" rear-end panel on
the
> > > >Roadster, and have always suspected it was due primarily to ease of
> > > >manufacture, rather than a planned styling detail.
> > > I've wondered about the back recently myself.  Perhaps it's a cost
> >thing,
> > > perhaps the roadster was ahead of its time, anticipating the Kamm-back
> > > styling of the late 60s.  I used to think the taillights were stuck
> > > on...items pulled from the Nissan parts bin, but they're unique to the
> > > roadster.  If they'd used Bluebird  (311) taillights of the era (which
> > > look like they might fit)  there'd be much more of an MGB resemblance.
> >I
> > > know the Roadster had its debut a year earlier, but it's hard enough
to
> > > convince folks of the order of appearance as it is.
> > > -Marc T.
> > >
> > >
>
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> > > 1970 1600 #SPL311-31016
> > > 1965 L-320 #L320 013642
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