Mike,
As a founding member of SoCalROC, I can tell you that you are not in any
danger of legal action until you actually get organization status. There is
no NOWROC as far as the legal system is concerned. You are just a bunch of
people getting together to drive your cars.
If someone got into an accident with a member on the run, the legal issue
would be between the two parties involved. NOWROC is not sponsoring the
event legally. Unless you actually incoporate and solicit membership dues
and such, you cannot be held liable for an incident on a public highway.
When you do incorporate, talk to your lawyer about liablility insurance and
build the premium costs into your dues.
Anyone wishing to join would have to sign a release in order to join.
SoCalROC has not made any plans to incorporate. Every time we have a run,
people refer to me as the "President" of the club. Something I discourage. I
just want to get together with my buds and go for a drive. Nowroc may want
to incorporate and that is fine, just make sure that the liablility
insurance is bought when you do.
FWIW
Andrew Murphy
Non-president of SoCalROC
>From: Mike Poorboy <bitterrootprop@nidlink.com>
>Reply-To: Mike Poorboy <bitterrootprop@nidlink.com>
>To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Roc liability
>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:01:18 -0700
>
>ROC organizers and list,
>I have a concern, I have tried not to use the NOWROC name to promote
>outings where driving is to be one of the functions. It did slip by me
>on the
>Whidbey Ride that was organized by some one else.
>
>I was concerned when I saw a post to the NOWROC mailing list by one of
>our members for a Seattle event in July. I wasn't notified of the event
>until
>I saw the post. The person involved was unaware that there was a problem
>
>with using the name without permission. After an explanation by me the
>person
>was very apologetic. I have been trying to get the members to show up at
>already established events, and if they wanted local evening or weekend
>drives
>on there own.
>
>The problem is liability, since NOWROC is a club that was started by a
>couple of us, and is based on the internet so far. There is no money or
>officers and
>especially no insurance. We are trying to raise money by most of the
>usual
>ways. Shirt and sticker sales and the like. We have not voted in any
>official
>officers and we don't have a not for profit tax exemption yet. It just
>takes time and since there was basically two of us doing most of the
>work
>that part is not done yet.
>
>What are the other clubs using for the liability insurance ? I was going
>to call Haggerty and Parish and see what they had to offer. I am
>concerned over
>someone getting hurt during a road outing and being sued. It is not the
>club members that I am worried about, but an outsider that could come
>after
>people with in the club.
>
>Open to all information, ideas and flames.
>
>Mike
>Founder of NOWROC
>Hayden Lake, Idaho
>
>
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