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Re: driveway contracting question, was Re: A/C Paving 101

To: james creasy <Black94PGT@pacbell.net>,
Subject: Re: driveway contracting question, was Re: A/C Paving 101
From: Alan Gruner <algruner@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 16:03:22 -0700 (PDT)
Put the lift outside then :)

--- james creasy <Black94PGT@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > For less than $10K, put a heavy-duty lift
> installed and you don't have to
> > crawl under the car at all.
> 
> well, its not only that.  i doubt i have room for a
> lift- there is only
> about 18" between the car and the wall all around. 
> to change tires i have
> to squeeze in from the side, and there is barely
> room to roll a tire between
> the wall and the car.  when they weigh 62 lbs each,
> its really a pain, and
> if i was outside i could actually lift the tire from
> the face, rather than
> the edge.  getting room for the jack between the car
> and wall requires some
> creativity.
> 
> plus, its kind of pleasant to be outside most of the
> year!
> 
> -james c
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Navid Kahangi" <navid@interwoven.com>
> To: "'james creasy'" <Black94PGT@pacbell.net>;
> "Anthony Tabacco"
> <atabacco@california.com>; <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 3:04 PM
> Subject: RE: driveway contracting question, was Re:
> A/C Paving 101
> 
> 
> > James,
> >
> > For less than $10K, put a heavy-duty lift
> installed and you don't have to
> > crawl under the car at all.
> >
> > --Navid
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: james creasy
> [mailto:Black94PGT@pacbell.net]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:39 AM
> > > To: Anthony Tabacco; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: driveway contracting question, was Re:
> A/C Paving 101
> > >
> > >
> > > i have a related question.
> > >
> > > my driveway has two strips of hard material (red
> concrete?)
> > > with grass in
> > > the middle.  id love it if i could the last 20
> feet or so
> > > paved over so i
> > > could work on my car outside.  any tips for what
> to ask for for a
> > > contractor, or tips on finding one?  if this
> will cost more
> > > than $10K forget
> > > it.
> > >
> > > the original driveway was built in 1923 and it
> about 35 feet
> > > long- runs
> > > right next to the house on one side for about 20
> feet.
> > >
> > > in the summer i can put a jack on the
> dirt/grass, but im not
> > > brave enough to
> > > crawl underneath with jack stands on just dirt.
> > >
> > > anyone done this?  advice?  thanks,
> > >
> > > -james "now a new jag driver" creasy
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Anthony Tabacco"
> <atabacco@california.com>
> > > To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:20 AM
> > > Subject: A/C Paving 101
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hot Mix Asphalt Paving ingredients include
> asphalt binders,
> > > course and
> > > fine
> > > > aggregates, and mineral fillers. About 90-95%
> of the total
> > > volume of the
> > > mix
> > > > is made up of aggregates. Surfaces that we
> usually
> > > associate with gravel
> > > > buildup will usually be of a mix design that
> contains a
> > > high percentage of
> > > > course aggregates, and probably a degradation
> of binders
> > > though wear and
> > > > evaporation (petroleum products evaporate).
> There are
> > > various surface
> > > > treatments, ranging from sprayed asphalt,
> asphalt seals
> > > (fog seal), to
> > > > slurries of emulsified asphalts mixed with
> fine aggregates, that can
> > > extend
> > > > the life of paving by limiting water
> intrusion, and these
> > > are particularly
> > > > necessary as the mix begins to disintegrate.
> > > >
> > > > I can think of no other activity that will
> degrade a paved
> > > surface faster
> > > > than autocrossing on it. The aggregates are
> literally being
> > > pulled from
> > > the
> > > > surface. Even high traffic-index truck traffic
> will not
> > > subject a surface
> > > to
> > > > the high shear of racing cars on it. So that's
> where the
> > > gravel comes
> > > from,
> > > > and that's why no matter how we sweep it, it
> reappears. It
> > > is just the
> > > > pavement breaking down. Irreparably.
> > > >
> > > > With rough grading, but no curbs, gutters,
> marking, right
> > > now you can
> > > figure
> > > > about $3.00 per square foot in install a
> medium index (for
> > > large areas and
> > > > not a high traffic-index) parking lot. The lot
> at GGF to
> > > use an example is
> > > > 550,000 SF (about 12.6 acres not counting the
> staging
> > > area). That's works
> > > > out to a little over $1.6M.
> > > >
> > > > This is all pretty boring stuff but it begs a
> question that
> > > is interesting
> > > > ( I've always found it very interesting
> anyway), namely :
> > > Why would anyone
> > > > let us do this to their lot?
> > > >
> > > > Tony
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