I have followed this thread and have asked about such cars in the recent
past and got flamed here and on the DM list. The SCCA needs a class for
"street" cars that either have all the nessecary stuff to drive on the
street and are unlicensable due to the NTSB/EPA regs that keep them out,
are street legal "Grey Market" cars or kit cars. All of said vehicles fall
currently into A or B mod where they get tromped by the winged wonders.
The roll bar rules in mod also are rather strict. Open cars require a full
cage and this will certainly ruin the value of the car and make it very much
less desirable to drive on the street as the tops usualy cannot quickly go
up in a rain storm.
I my self have an open kit car car (Spyder Replica) that I run in Dmod here
in Pittsburgh. It is an open car with a remoivable full cage and I run for
fun at hill climbs. The Dmod list said it should not run there because of
the homologation rules and that it was never a "Production Race Vehicle".
The originals raced in F mod in the 50's. It has 2 seats, lights, glass,
wipers and a horn. It also has a license and PA inspection. It gets
occaisional driving on the street.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Kelly [mailto:lollipop@ricochet.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 1:10 PM
To: Dave Whitworth
Cc: Smokerbros@aol.com; autox@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Need help classing Lotus
In my opinion, some cars are not stock. Perhaps the WRX and Elise
should be part of that group. Perhaps there could be a listing or
wording that would exclude such cars from the Stock, and maybe even SP
list, but allow them to run in Prepared and Modified, since both
categories need some new "blood" added. Few of the Prepared- and
Modified-classed cars are driven on the street anyway. Hmmm, there is
one DM 7 in San Diego that is, most every day, very fast.
But I'm not a rule writer...
--Pat K
Dave Whitworth wrote:
>
> I don't have the rule book handy, but aren't the very first sentences in
> Stock and Street Prepared categories something about vehicles being
produced
> for sale as street legal in the US or something like that?
>
> If you eliminated that wording, then wouldn't you open up the stock
classes
> to all types of cars that aren't produced for the US? Then they would
fall
> into NOC categories and you *MIGHT* really shake things up with a car like
> the really high HP Subaru WRX that isn't available here.
>
> Just wondering and not trying to argue....:)
>
> Dave Whitwoirth
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop@ricochet.net>
> To: <Smokerbros@aol.com>
> Cc: <dave@wcsllc.net>; <autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: Need help classing Lotus
>
> > Non-streetable only in the U.S., Charlie. Puritans that we still are.
> > Omitting the "non-streetable" part of your sentence, the $60K cost
> > certainly isn't a classing factor, nor should it be. Look at the
> > Ferraris and Porsches that are running. The Elise looks like a bargain
> > to me.
> > --Pat Kelly
> >
> > Smokerbros@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > In a message dated 6/2/01 7:58:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> dave@wcsllc.net
> > > writes:
> > >
> > > > A member here has brought this up also - and please don't take this
> > > > wrong....but there is no question in my mind that the car has a
class:
> AM.
> > > > It is certainly meets the track, wheelbase and width rules, doesn't
> have a
> > > > wing to even measure so what is the problem? What am I missing :)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Dave is right. It's an A/Mod car. I can also see the club's
reticence
> to
> > > class a $60K (before modifications) non-streetable car in a grassroots
> > > motorsport.
> > >
> > > CHD
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