"Jay Mitchell" <jemitchell@compuserve.com> wrote:
> Matt Murray wrote:
Weights and sizes would be REALLY helpful!
>> IMO, these come under the heading of "rare".
"rare" is not, by itself, a killer tomato. "rare" coupled to "overdog" is;
especially if "expensive" is in the mix too.
>> AMX
> Two seat cars.
One of the nice things about an inclusion list is we can allow in 2-seaters
that don't drive like 2-seaters. There are 4-seaters that act like
2-seaters, why can't the inverse be true?
>> Javelin (all)
> Rare, but I don't think they have any advantage over other period
> ponycars.
Agreed.
>> Milano
> That's a sedan which came with Alfa's largest engine, a V6. Not
> that much potential for improvement. No threat to SM.
>> America (all)
> Austin Americas have the same chassis and driveline as Minis. Ifn
> Minis are excluded, Americas should be as well.
>> 2002 ti
> Never sold in the US, and it doesn't matter. You can make a 2002
> into a ti with (mostly) SP-legal changes. No advantage in SM.
>> & tii
> Likewise. Everything that distinguishes a tii from a normal 2002
> is unrestricted in SM.
>> (all) Bavaria
> This listing should include BMW 2500/2800/Bavaria/3.0S, all of
> which are quite large (for German cars of the time) five-seat
> sedans. They are not particularly rare, nor are they any threat
> to SM.
For all cars that are "not a threat to SM", it would really help if it were
stated *why* it's not a threat to SM.
>>1800ti
> Again, this listing should include 1600/1800/2000 sedans, along
> with the 1800ti. Four-door sedans, overweight, too tall, and
> underpowered in their original form. They share driveline
> components with '02 BMWs and weigh much more. No threat to SM.
Like this. :) Good job.
>> TISA
> Only 8 (from memory) ever made. Based on the sedans listed above,
> they were built to compete in the Sebring 12 hrs. of 196(5 or 6 I
> believe). I've driven and worked on one of these cars. SM rules
> allow all the mods necessary to convert an 1800 into a TISA. No
> threat to SM.
>> Corvair & Yenko Stage I & II & III (all)
> Aww, heck. Let the Corvair guys have some fun, woncha?
Howard is *conviced* that there are lots of Corvairs just itching to run
SM. These cars should already be legal....
If one can find a Corvair anywhere that's not already a CP car that is.
>> Arrow /Sapporo
> Dunno.
>> Abarth (all)
> Agreed. Tuner cars. May be possible to make a Fiat 600 into an
> Abarth, but 600s are extremely small and light, too, and should
> probably be excluded.
>> Cortina
> No more problematic than Pintos. Probably heavier, live rear axle
> w/leaf springs. A Capri would probably be a better choice for an
> SM car anyway.
>> Cobra R
> I'm not positive, but I bet the SM rules allow all the changes
> you need to make a Mustang into a Cobra R.
They do.
>> Scorpion (all)
> Two seats.
And...?
>> Beta & Zagato ('75-83)
> Basically Fignats. Even rarer, though. I don't think you'll be
> alienating a large contingency if you leave these out. ;<)
You'd be suprised. Somewhere out there is a Zagato-driving Paul Foster
clone. :(
>> Biturbo
> Big, ugly, unreliable sedan. Rare, but mostly because almost none
> of the remaining ones can be kept running. The biggest threat a
> Biturbo would pose is creating an obstruction on course. ;<)
>> Cosmo
>> R-100 (all)
> Dunno aobut either of the above.
Seems to me these are much akin to the RX-3.
>> Lancer, Lancer EVO, Charisma EVO {ed. note, non-USA car}
> Idunno.
Midsize sedans with decent motors - basically 4-door Talons. Cool cars, no
more problematic than any other DSM.
>> 405 M116
> Sedan. Rare because Peugeot had trouble giving them away in this
> country, but not a threat to SM.
>> R5 Turbo
> Not US-legal. Since the entire driveline in the Turbo I (or was
> it Turbo II?) was relocated from the original position in the R5,
> this car should definitely be excluded. Otherwise, you can
> update/backdate an R5 into a midengine car.
>> Fuego Turbo
> I can't see a problem w/Fuegos in SM. They're FWD and not light.
>> Saleen (all)
> Agreed.
>> Shelby (all)
> Yep.
> I'd add Deloreans to the excluded list.
Why? They're absolute pigs. Heavy, heavy car.
DG
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