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Re: SP rules and ESP Clarification

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Subject: Re: SP rules and ESP Clarification
From: "msmith2" <msmith2@columbus.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 18:20:13 -0800
How else could 230hp 3rd gen Camarobirds compete with 285-305hp 4th gen ones
at similar weights and with a distinct front suspension disadvantage?

Having raced both for quite a while, I'd vouch for this...

Mike Smith


>I agree.  Though my level of ax experience doesn't match yours, an
>experienced autcrosser once told me (as I mentioned earlier in a private
>post), "hp doesn't win races, torque does".
>
>Richard Nichols
>rnichol1@san.rr.com
>San Diego, CA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeffrey Lloyd <jslz3@hotmail.com>
>To: richj50@bit-net.com <richj50@bit-net.com>; autox@autox.team.net
><autox@autox.team.net>
>Date: Monday, March 22, 1999 1:38 PM
>Subject: Re: SP rules and ESP Clarification
>
>
>>
>>Obviously In the Z28 world Torque (or area under the curve) Dosent
>>exist, and peak hp is the only judge of a motors performance. Right?
>>Peak HP means just that peak, for one fraction of a second.. Anyone who
>>has autocrossed, which I think One or two of us on this list have..
>>Knows Peak hp means Crap, coming out of a corner if the motor makes No
>>Torque your cursing..  Sorry I just am tired of the whining.. and
>>besides if you think a Lt1 Z28 modded to the *limit* of the rules can
>>only make 290 hp you need to talk to an engine builder that SAME motor
>>in a Vette makes 300hp stock exaust alone can give those cars 15-20 peak
>>hp.. and I don't think 400hp was a rear wheel number anyway
>>
>>Jeff
>>(Flame suit on)
>>
>>Rich Jhonson wrote:
>>>
>>>Here's a few data points.  I've heard that the Supra in question claims
>>>400hp at the rear wheels.  For those of you that think that the big,
>>>powerful f-bodies can top or equal that, here are some dyno figures:
>>>
>>>LT1 Z28 modded to limit of rules: 275-290hp max.
>>>LS1 stock: 300 rwhp
>>>LS1 modded to limit of rules: probably 330 max.
>>>LT4 (John Ames' old car): 315rwhp (I saw it on the dyno myself)
>>>
>>>If the Supra really makes 400 rwhp, it's in a whole 'nother universe of
>>>power than the f-bodies.
>>>
>>>Rich Johnston
>>>95 Z28 ESP
>>>
>>
>>
>


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