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Re: What temp should I expect

To: eric <efunk@peoriasiding.com>
Subject: Re: What temp should I expect
From: Kurt Eckert <kurt@kurteckert.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 09:59:10 -0400
Doh, thanks for reminding me. I had that on an old list to check. Curt at
Sunbeam Specialties suggested that I take a look at the timing a few months
back. I forgot while I was waiting for my radiator to get recored.

Kurt

On 9/8/03 9:16 AM, "eric" <efunk@peoriasiding.com> wrote:

> Dumb question..........have you checked the timing? Without a long, blow hard
> dialogue, been there done that.
> 
> Kurt Eckert wrote:
> 
>> I was not planning on running the car for any period of time without the
>> thermostat in the engine. This was a test to see if the thermostat was the
>> culprit in the overheating problem. It is not, so I need to look in other
>> areas. It is not likely that it is a clogged black as it is a brand new
>> engine that was completely cleaned and blueprinted. I saw the engine before
>> it was put back together and it was a high quality rebuild. I have exhausted
>> the tests that I am capable of doing so I am going to bring it to the shop
>> and have a pro look it it.
>> 
>> Kurt
>> 
>> On 9/7/03 9:15 PM, "Louis & Laila" <bwana@c2i2.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Don't run a car without a thermostat, it will ruin it. The reason for this
>>> is the heat capacity for water. It is more immune to temp fluctuations and
>>> absorbtion than iron. Therefore, if you take the thermostat out, the water
>>> flows through the block quickly, failing to absorb heat. It is then takne to
>>> the rad where it loses heat. Your block is now operating at a higher
>>> temperature than your guage is reading, while your water isn't cooling it
>>> down as much as it should. Having personaly ruined a Tiger motor doing just
>>> this, I am speaking from experieince. Most Alpine heating problems are due
>>> to a clogged block. Pull the freeze plugs, and use some acid to disolve it,
>>> use a coat hanger or other probe, and flush it out.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kurt Eckert" <kurt@kurteckert.com>
>>> To: "Alpine folks" <alpines@autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 5:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: What temp should I expect
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Well I ran the car today without a thermostat and ran into the same
>>> problem.
>>>> I guess it is time to start looking deeper into the engine as a problem.
>>>> 
>>>> Kurt
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/4/03 5:35 PM, "Thomas Wiencek" <wiencek@anl.gov> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Please tell us what you find.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: owner-alpines@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-alpines@autox.team.net]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Kurt Eckert
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:08 AM
>>>>> To: Alpine folks
>>>>> Subject: Re: What temp should I expect
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for the info,
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is a complete rebuild done by Bob "Herbeam" Willis and Smitty's of
>>>>> San
>>>>> Diego a few years ago. It has less then 150 miles on it after the
>>>>> rebuild.
>>>>> So effectively it is a new engine. I am going to pull out the thermostat
>>>>> and
>>>>> try running it without that to see if that might be causing the problem.
>>>>> If
>>>>> that is not it then I will check to see if I have any combustion gases
>>>>> in
>>>>> the water system. I really hope not. :(
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kurt
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/3/03 1:09 AM, "jumpinjan" <jservaites@woh.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kurt Eckert wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have been having a problem with my 3GT overheating and attributed
>>>>> it to
>>>>>>> the 40 year old radiator. Well I got my radiator back from being
>>>>> re-cored
>>>>>>> with a modern 3 core setup and I am still getting steam coming out
>>>>> from
>>>>>>> under the hood after a few minutes of driving. What sort of temp
>>>>> should I
>>>>>>> expect?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you get steam after a few minutes of driving, then it's not the
>>>>>> radiator. I have never seen any problems with the water pump
>>>>> overheating
>>>>>> the engine. I suspect some deeper problems like head gasket failure
>>>>>> and/or sediment build up in the block. How long has it been since the
>>>>>> last engine rebuild?
>>>>>> Jan

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