Brian Kemp bk13 at earthlink.net
Thu Nov 7 17:34:49 MST 2019

This was the mid 1990's.  I talked to the CA DMV on the phone before 
buying the car and in person when I went to transfer the car.  They 
insisted that the Oh was not valid in a VIN and it had to be a zero.  
Realized reality didn't matter with the DMV and it wasn't worth trying 
to be right with the facts.  Since my car has be a CA car since new, I'd 
guess when initially titled in 1972, they marked it as a zero.


On 11/7/2019 4:27 AM, Reihing, Randall S. wrote:
> How does changing the "O" to a "0" on the paper title, match the "O" 
>  on the riveted metal plate still on the car itself? How is it legal 
> to have a title with a VIN that does not match the VIN on the 
> vehicle's riveted metal plate?
> Randall Reihing
> 1960 TR3A
> 1959 TR3A
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> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Brian 
> Kemp <bk13 at earthlink.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 6, 2019 8:50:45 PM
> *To:* Andrew Uprichard <auprichard at uprichard.net>; 'Triumphs' 
> <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] VINs
> My California TR6 title also ends L0 - L zero.  I told them it should 
> be an Oh for Overdrive, but they said I couldn't have an Oh and I was 
> wrong.  Not worth having an argument with the DMV.  The insurance 
> company was fine with whatever the title said.
> Brian
> On 11/6/2019 1:13 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote:
>> I just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory 
>> overdrive.  The old title appropriately ended “LO”, but I was told 
>> that “Os” and “Is” are no longer acceptable in titles.  So I had to 
>> change the VIN (on the title) to “L0”.  Then I had to call the 
>> insurance company to explain the same story to them and have them 
>> send me a proof of insurance with “L0”.
>> Anyone else come across this?  Maybe it has been going on for years:  
>> I have 4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.
>> Andrew Uprichard
>> Jackson, MI
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