[TR] Without the radiator?

Chris Simo ccsimonsen at gmail.com
Wed Sep 12 18:20:01 MDT 2018


Not that hard to put the radiator in.  Just use water for the initial start
and warm up cycles.

Sent from my TRASH-80

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018, 8:54 PM Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1 at gmail.com> wrote:

>  If the radiator is installed, I would  Cut my hands on the fins  trying
> to turn it over.  I wish I would’ve taken the radiator out internal
> frequently!
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 6:32 AM John Macartney <
> john.macartney at ukpips.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Certainly wouldn’t disagree about running the engine without coolant.
>> That said, the old wet liner four could take an enormous amount of abuse. I
>> sold a new TR4A to a guy in the States just after the TR250 had been
>> announced. He couldn’t wait for the 8 week build process and so took on a
>> 4A to US spec that we had in export stock. The car was driven under its own
>> power from Coventry to London (about 100 miles) for preparation and on
>> arrival, it was discovered the engine had never been topped off with
>> anti-freeze, the core plugs had blown out after a very heavy frost and
>> there was very little coolant left. London Service Division pulled the head
>> to see if the cylinders were scored and then dropped the sump to check the
>> main bearings. All OK. The guy took delivery and disappeared never to be
>> heard of for a long while. Two years later, I received a letter from him.
>> Seemingly he’d caned the car all over Europe and had ventured as far as the
>> edge of the Sahara desert in Algeria before shipping it home. He’d never
>> bothered to break it in and said he’d done several east coast to west coast
>> and back trips in the US and had red-lined the engine all the way, but as
>> he was married, the car had to go as the first baby was on the way.
>>
>> Personally, I wouldn’t have treated any engine as he appeared to have
>> done but to have done 100 miles with effectively zero coolant indicates the
>> wet-liner four was a tough old thing and could take (almost) any amount of
>> abuse. I don’t suggest anyone tries to imitate this exercise!
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonmac
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Geo
>> Hahn
>> *Sent:* 10 September 2018 00:42
>> *To:* Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1 at gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* Triumph list Team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Without the radiator?
>>
>>
>>
>> I drove mine w/o a radiator but probably less than a minute (times two).
>>
>>
>>
>> I really don't remember doing it but looking at photos the other day,
>> that is the only way it could have ended up in the street looking like this
>> (just pressure-washed the front bits prior to timing chain work):
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 8:09 AM, Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 11:06 AM Randall <tr3driver at ca.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> >  Another dream :  Can I Crank it up and run it for five
>> > minutes without the radiator attached?
>>
>> 5 minutes is way too long without coolant; a sure recipe for a cracked
>> head
>> or worse.
>>
>> You might be able to get that much if you find a way to fill it with water
>> and top it up when it starts boiling.  But even that is a risk, IMO, both
>> to
>> the engine and you.  It may eject boiling water just as you look at it
>> and a
>> face full of boiling water can ruin your whole day!
>>
>> -- Randall
>>
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