[TR] Without the radiator?

[Paul Dorsey]

 If the radiator is installed, I would  Cut my hands on the fins  trying to
turn it over.  I wish I would’ve taken the radiator out internal
frequently!

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 6:32 AM John Macartney <john.macartney at ukpips.org.uk>
wrote:

> Certainly wouldn’t disagree about running the engine without coolant. That
> said, the old wet liner four could take an enormous amount of abuse. I sold
> a new TR4A to a guy in the States just after the TR250 had been announced.
> He couldn’t wait for the 8 week build process and so took on a 4A to US
> spec that we had in export stock. The car was driven under its own power
> from Coventry to London (about 100 miles) for preparation and on arrival,
> it was discovered the engine had never been topped off with anti-freeze,
> the core plugs had blown out after a very heavy frost and there was very
> little coolant left. London Service Division pulled the head to see if the
> cylinders were scored and then dropped the sump to check the main bearings.
> All OK. The guy took delivery and disappeared never to be heard of for a
> long while. Two years later, I received a letter from him. Seemingly he’d
> caned the car all over Europe and had ventured as far as the edge of the
> Sahara desert in Algeria before shipping it home. He’d never bothered to
> break it in and said he’d done several east coast to west coast and back
> trips in the US and had red-lined the engine all the way, but as he was
> married, the car had to go as the first baby was on the way.
>
> Personally, I wouldn’t have treated any engine as he appeared to have done
> but to have done 100 miles with effectively zero coolant indicates the
> wet-liner four was a tough old thing and could take (almost) any amount of
> abuse. I don’t suggest anyone tries to imitate this exercise!
>
>
>
> Jonmac
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Geo Hahn
> *Sent:* 10 September 2018 00:42
> *To:* Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Triumph list Team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Without the radiator?
>
>
>
> I drove mine w/o a radiator but probably less than a minute (times two).
>
>
>
> I really don't remember doing it but looking at photos the other day, that
> is the only way it could have ended up in the street looking like this
> (just pressure-washed the front bits prior to timing chain work):
>
>
>
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> On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 8:09 AM, Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 11:06 AM Randall <tr3driver at ca.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >  Another dream :  Can I Crank it up and run it for five
> > minutes without the radiator attached?
>
> 5 minutes is way too long without coolant; a sure recipe for a cracked head
> or worse.
>
> You might be able to get that much if you find a way to fill it with water
> and top it up when it starts boiling.  But even that is a risk, IMO, both
> to
> the engine and you.  It may eject boiling water just as you look at it and
> a
> face full of boiling water can ruin your whole day!
>
> -- Randall
>
>
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