<div dir="auto">Not that hard to put the radiator in. Just use water for the initial start and warm up cycles.<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Sent from my TRASH-80</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Sep 10, 2018, 8:54 PM Paul Dorsey <<a href="mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto"> If the radiator is installed, I would Cut my hands on the fins trying to turn it over. I wish I would’ve taken the radiator out internal frequently! </div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 6:32 AM John Macartney <<a href="mailto:john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_6195122708412758107m_3637041784300002490WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Certainly wouldn’t disagree about running the engine without coolant. That said, the old wet liner four could take an enormous amount of abuse. I sold a new TR4A to a guy in the States just after the TR250 had been announced. He couldn’t wait for the 8 week build process and so took on a 4A to US spec that we had in export stock. The car was driven under its own power from Coventry to London (about 100 miles) for preparation and on arrival, it was discovered the engine had never been topped off with anti-freeze, the core plugs had blown out after a very heavy frost and there was very little coolant left. London Service Division pulled the head to see if the cylinders were scored and then dropped the sump to check the main bearings. All OK. The guy took delivery and disappeared never to be heard of for a long while. Two years later, I received a letter from him. Seemingly he’d caned the car all over Europe and had ventured as far as the edge of the Sahara desert in Algeria before shipping it home. He’d never bothered to break it in and said he’d done several east coast to west coast and back trips in the US and had red-lined the engine all the way, but as he was married, the car had to go as the first baby was on the way.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Personally, I wouldn’t have treated any engine as he appeared to have done but to have done 100 miles with effectively zero coolant indicates the wet-liner four was a tough old thing and could take (almost) any amount of abuse. I don’t suggest anyone tries to imitate this exercise!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Jonmac<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Geo Hahn<br><b>Sent:</b> 10 September 2018 00:42<br><b>To:</b> Paul Dorsey <<a href="mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Triumph list Team.net <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Without the radiator?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">I drove mine w/o a radiator but probably less than a minute (times two).<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_6195122708412758107m_3637041784300002490WordSection1"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I really don't remember doing it but looking at photos the other day, that is the only way it could have ended up in the street looking like this (just pressure-washed the front bits prior to timing chain work):<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><img src="cid:165c3707c56b11963101" style="width:472px;max-width:100%"><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_6195122708412758107m_3637041784300002490WordSection1"><div></div></div></div><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_6195122708412758107m_3637041784300002490WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 8:09 AM, Paul Dorsey <<a href="mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 11:06 AM Randall <<a href="mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tr3driver@ca.rr.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">> Another dream : Can I Crank it up and run it for five <br>> minutes without the radiator attached?<br><br>5 minutes is way too long without coolant; a sure recipe for a cracked head<br>or worse.<br><br>You might be able to get that much if you find a way to fill it with water<br>and top it up when it starts boiling. But even that is a risk, IMO, both to<br>the engine and you. It may eject boiling water just as you look at it and a<br>face full of boiling water can ruin your whole day!<br><br>-- Randall <u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_6195122708412758107m_3637041784300002490WordSection1"></div><div id="m_6195122708412758107m_3637041784300002490DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br>
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