[TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes

cfmtr3a cfmtr3a at verizon.net
Tue Jan 9 18:14:20 MST 2018


 I'm not sure what I did but it is working. I disconnected each bullet from the connector and then reconnected it. When I was all done, it work. What a fun day.
LaterCarl


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-------- Original message --------From: CFM-TR <cfmtr3a at verizon.net> Date: 1/9/18  4:27 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 'wbeech' <wbeech at flash.net>, 'TR Triumphs' <triumphs at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes 
Thanks for the responses.  I added bullet connectors in both Green/White (GW for RR signal) & Green/Red (GR for LR signal) lines just before lamps 

Further investigation.  
With Lamps still connected 
When RR is disconnected (No ground/No Live), LR still flashes.
Reconnected RR and disconnected GR, LR does not flash.  
BUT - RR works as it should; Left Rear doesn’t work when triggered at Control Head.Disconnected Lamps at bullet connectors; Used two test lamp circuits with grounds connected to body:
With both test lamps connected, both flash the same as lamps.
With RR disconnected, test lamp connected to GR from wire harness, Test Lamp flashes.
In other words – no difference from original problem.GR comes through wire harness from passenger side connections at RF Horn.
Checked GN from flasher to RF connection and it is doubled up with the GN going to LF; GR is a dead-end at RF connection.Not sure what to do next….  Suggestions?Thanks
Carl 1960 Triumph TR3TS81802LOTampa, FL   From: Dave [mailto:dave1massey at cs.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 7:58 AM
To: cfmtr3a at verizon.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes Since the front and rear lights work off the same wire and the fronts work I would look at the ground connections at the rear, specifically the right rear.  The wire may be inserted in the right place but is it making connection?  Corrosion or a broken wire may be creating unintended current paths leading to bizarre results such as this.

When the RR lamp flashes is it as bright as the LR when it flashes alone?  Is the LR brighter when you engage the left turn signal as when you engage the right turn signal?  Dave MasseyFrom: wbeech [mailto:wbeech at flash.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 11:22 PM
To: cfmtr3a at verizon.net; 'TR Triumphs' <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes I have had issues like that before on my car and others.  Assuming a good ground I would pull everything loose near the fixtures, including the running and brake lights, and connect up one at a time and test each time I made a connections.  As soon as something goes wrong, chase that wire back through all the points to confirm that it is correct.  Don’t assume that he flasher and the connections inside the steering hub are good. No easy answer, may 5 minutes, maybe 5 hours. Good luck,Bill  From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CFM-TR
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 9:11 PM
To: 'TR Triumphs' <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes See attached diagram. When I operate left turn on control head, front and rear operate as they should.When I operate right turn on control, right front works but both lamps flash in the rear. Any ideas where the problem is?  I am at a complete loss.  I would think that if I have right/left crossover, both lamps in the rear would flash regardless of which indicator is used.  I checked connections at the rear lamps and only a single line (correct one GR or GW) is connected.  Only line going to right front is GW.  I have tried different connections at left front since the GN and GR look so similar but nothing works then.  I checked all four corners and live/ground wires are going to the correct terminals. Any ideas appreciated.  Thanks Carl Musson1960 Triumph TR3TS81802LOTampa, FL  
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