<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div><font face="sans-serif"> I'm not sure what I did but it is working. I disconnected each bullet from the connector and then reconnected it. When I was all done, it work. What a fun day.</font></div><div><font face="sans-serif"><br></font></div><div>Later</div><div>Carl</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone</div></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: CFM-TR <cfmtr3a@verizon.net> </div><div>Date: 1/9/18 4:27 PM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: 'wbeech' <wbeech@flash.net>, 'TR Triumphs' <triumphs@autox.team.net> </div><div>Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes </div><div><br></div></div><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Thanks for the responses. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">I added bullet connectors in both Green/White (GW for RR signal) & Green/Red (GR for LR signal) lines just before lamps <br><br>Further investigation. <br>With Lamps still connected <br>When RR is disconnected (No ground/No Live), LR still flashes.<br>Reconnected RR and disconnected GR, LR does not flash. <br>BUT - RR works as it should; Left Rear doesn’t work when triggered at Control Head.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Disconnected Lamps at bullet connectors; Used two test lamp circuits with grounds connected to body:<br>With both test lamps connected, both flash the same as lamps.<br>With RR disconnected, test lamp connected to GR from wire harness, Test Lamp flashes.<br>In other words – no difference from original problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">GR comes through wire harness from passenger side connections at RF Horn.<br>Checked GN from flasher to RF connection and it is doubled up with the GN going to LF; GR is a dead-end at RF connection.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Not sure what to do next…. Suggestions?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Thanks<br></span><span style="color:#1F497D">Carl <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">1960 Triumph TR3<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">TS81802LO<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Tampa, FL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b> Dave [mailto:dave1massey@cs.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 9, 2018 7:58 AM<br><b>To:</b> cfmtr3a@verizon.net; triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Since the front and rear lights work off the same wire and the fronts work I would look at the ground connections at the rear, specifically the right rear. The wire may be inserted in the right place but is it making connection? Corrosion or a broken wire may be creating unintended current paths leading to bizarre results such as this.<br><br>When the RR lamp flashes is it as bright as the LR when it flashes alone? Is the LR brighter when you engage the left turn signal as when you engage the right turn signal? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Dave Massey<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b> wbeech [mailto:wbeech@flash.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 8, 2018 11:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> cfmtr3a@verizon.net; 'TR Triumphs' <triumphs@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">I have had issues like that before on my car and others. Assuming a good ground I would pull everything loose near the fixtures, including the running and brake lights, and connect up one at a time and test each time I made a connections. As soon as something goes wrong, chase that wire back through all the points to confirm that it is correct. Don’t assume that he flasher and the connections inside the steering hub are good.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">No easy answer, may 5 minutes, maybe 5 hours.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Good luck,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b> Triumphs [<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>CFM-TR<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 08, 2018 9:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'TR Triumphs' <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] TR3 Turn Signal woes<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">See attached diagram.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">When I operate left turn on control head, front and rear operate as they should.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">When I operate right turn on control, right front works but both lamps flash in the rear.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Any ideas where the problem is? I am at a complete loss. I would think that if I have right/left crossover, both lamps in the rear would flash regardless of which indicator is used. I checked connections at the rear lamps and only a single line (correct one GR or GW) is connected. Only line going to right front is GW. I have tried different connections at left front since the GN and GR look so similar but nothing works then. I checked all four corners and live/ground wires are going to the correct terminals.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Any ideas appreciated. Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Carl Musson<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">1960 Triumph TR3<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">TS81802LO<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Tampa, FL<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>