[Tigers] Fwd: Tigers eng removal
jvparlanti at gmail.com
jvparlanti at gmail.com
Sat Dec 4 08:02:26 MST 2021
Steve,
1. The engine compartment color should be the body color.
2. I’ve taken engines out dozens of times and out the bottom is the way to go. I normally take 2 of the front crossmember bolts out and thread them into the top inside the engine compartment after putting them through a link of large chain. Now you have something to lift with. While supporting the car via this chain and hoist, remove the other 2 crossmember bolts. Raise the car up leaving the crossmember (with the wheels still on it) on the ground. You’ll need to wiggle it as things are going up to get it clear. Once high enough, roll the crossmember out from under the car. Now lower the car back down until the engine rests on an engine dolly. Remove the motor mounts and anything else still attached leaving the transmission with the engine. Lift the body leaving the engine on the cradle. Roll the engine / transmission out the front.
3. I drive my car a lot, usually 3,000 to 5,000 miles per year so I went with a non-stock approach. I still have my numbers matching 260 in a baggie in my garage but built a very nice 302 for my car. I also installed Dale’s 5-speed a couple of years ago. Transformed the car.
Hope this helps,
JVP
16048 Copen Meadow Dr
North Potomac, MD 20878
Cell - 410-599-5475
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Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: Tigers eng removal
I've had my midnight blue Tiger 35 years now, and when I did my eng over it came out the bottom. Much easier especially when reinstalling a fresh eng into a newly painted compartment which will also be Midnight blue.
My car is presently being totally refreshed, good luck and have fun. Beau
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This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the wiring and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last 10 years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due to work, health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going through my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue) throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and transmission.
First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My car was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of red that now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black. I figure if I'm going to repaint everything, I might as well do it right.
Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from the top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull from the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of the car over the edge of the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air, minus the front crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine to the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best way, and why?
Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issue, parts availability, reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt the value of the car by having the original engine/tranny available but newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?
Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
Steve
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Steve,
Its a shame you couldn't get it reliable in 20 years...
A full restore is always nice though.
Engine compartment should be body color, my car was Midnight Blue too and if I ever get around to it, I think I may go back to original too.
A 5.0/5speed transforms the car to a modern car. you won't wan to go back. I just have a stock cam Mustang engine but its awesome fast
and loves to cruise at 80 with good mileage.
I use my 4-post lift to drop the engine/tranny out the bottom, worked slick. I wouldn't try to hang it over the end though.
Gary
> On 12/03/2021 9:14 PM steve wick via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:
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> This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the wiring and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last 10 years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due to work, health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going through my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue) throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and transmission.
> First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My car was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of red that now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black. I figure if I'm going to repaint everything, I might as well do it right.
> Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from the top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull from the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of the car over the edge of the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air, minus the front crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine to the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best way, and why?
> Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issue, parts availability, reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt the value of the car by having the original engine/tranny available but newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?
>
> Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
>
> Steve
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Steve,
I'm sure there are more knowledgeable people on the list who can answer your questions, but my input is free.
On question 1, when I owned my Tiger it was a one owner all original car, so my response is based on my old car. The engine compartment was body color. Entire car was painted body color.
Question 2, IIRC, the engine was mounted to the front suspension and they dropped the car down onto the suspension. I've always read it was easier and safer to do the same if you can. Since I never had to remove my engine and tranny I'll have to leave this to someone more knowledgeable than me.
Question 3, I haven't noticed if a stock, original Tiger sells for any more or less than one with an engine and transmission upgrade as long as all the work looks like it was done at the factory. The best compromise is to stay with bolt-on upgrades only and keep all the original parts and store them properly. This way if you ever sell your car and a future owner wants to return it to its original configuration they can easily unbolt your modifications and bolt all the original parts back on the car.
Hope this helps a little.?
Dan Eiland?Ex Tiger Owner
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On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 7:15 PM, steve wick via Tigers<tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote: #yiv8173281967 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the wiring and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last 10 years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due to work, health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going through my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue) throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and transmission.?? First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My car was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of red that now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black. I figure if I'm going to repaint everything
, I might as well do it right.? Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from the top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull from the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of the car over the edge of the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air, minus the front crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine to the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best way, and why?? Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because o
f the ZDDP issue, parts availability, reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt the value of the car by having the original engine/tranny available but newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?
Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
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