[Tigers] Fwd: Tigers eng removal
Lance Beauchamp
blance598 at gmail.com
Sat Dec 4 07:22:20 MST 2021
I've had my midnight blue Tiger 35 years now, and when I did my eng over it
came out the bottom. Much easier especially when reinstalling a fresh eng
into a newly painted compartment which will also be Midnight blue.
My car is presently being totally refreshed, good luck and have fun. Beau
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 02:14:47 +0000
From: steve wick <srwick at hotmail.com>
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Subject: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions
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This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 20
years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the
wiring and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last 10
years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due
to work, health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going
through my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus,
getting it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue)
throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and
transmission.
First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My car was
completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of red that
now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black. I figure
if I'm going to repaint everything, I might as well do it right.
Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from the top and
from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way behind
me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull from the
bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car
lift, so can position the front of the car over the edge of the platform,
block up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down
and lift the whole car in the air, minus the front
crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine to
the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best way, and
why?
Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to
"refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a rare
car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have fun
with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using a roller cam
302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issue, parts availability,
reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt the value of the
car by having the original engine/tranny available but newer stuff
installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?
Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
Steve
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 00:02:32 -0500 (EST)
From: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>
To: steve wick <srwick at hotmail.com>, steve wick via Tigers
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions
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Steve,
Its a shame you couldn't get it reliable in 20 years...
A full restore is always nice though.
Engine compartment should be body color, my car was Midnight Blue too and
if I ever get around to it, I think I may go back to original too.
A 5.0/5speed transforms the car to a modern car. you won't wan to go back.
I just have a stock cam Mustang engine but its awesome fast
and loves to cruise at 80 with good mileage.
I use my 4-post lift to drop the engine/tranny out the bottom, worked
slick. I wouldn't try to hang it over the end though.
Gary
> On 12/03/2021 9:14 PM steve wick via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:
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> This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger
for 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with
the wiring and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last 10
years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due
to work, health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going
through my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus,
getting it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue)
throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and
transmission.
> First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My
car was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of
red that now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black.
I figure if I'm going to repaint everything, I might as well do it right.
> Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from the
top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way
behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull from
the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car
lift, so can position the front of the car over the edge of the platform,
block up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down
and lift the whole car in the air, minus the front
crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine to
the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best way, and
why?
> Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to
"refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a rare
car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have fun
with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using a roller cam
302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issue, parts availability,
reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt the value of the
car by having the original engine/tranny available but newer stuff
installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?
>
> Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
>
> Steve
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 05:29:12 +0000 (UTC)
From: Daniel Eiland <deiland1 at att.net>
To: steve wick <srwick at hotmail.com>, steve wick via Tigers
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions
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Steve,
I'm sure there are more knowledgeable people on the list who can answer
your questions, but my input is free.
On question 1, when I owned my Tiger it was a one owner all original car,
so my response is based on my old car. The engine compartment was body
color. Entire car was painted body color.
Question 2, IIRC, the engine was mounted to the front suspension and they
dropped the car down onto the suspension. I've always read it was easier
and safer to do the same if you can. Since I never had to remove my engine
and tranny I'll have to leave this to someone more knowledgeable than me.
Question 3, I haven't noticed if a stock, original Tiger sells for any more
or less than one with an engine and transmission upgrade as long as all the
work looks like it was done at the factory. The best compromise is to stay
with bolt-on upgrades only and keep all the original parts and store them
properly. This way if you ever sell your car and a future owner wants to
return it to its original configuration they can easily unbolt your
modifications and bolt all the original parts back on the car.
Hope this helps a little.?
Dan Eiland?Ex Tiger Owner
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On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 7:15 PM, steve wick via Tigers<
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: #yiv8173281967 P
{margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}This will be a long post, so please bear
with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. I
had constant problems with the wiring and fuel system that left me stranded
several times. The last 10 years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100
miles per year, mainly due to work, health issues, time and the
unreliability issue. I plan on going through my Tiger this winter, updating
the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting it ready to go back to the
original paint color (Midnight Blue) throughout the car. As part of that, I
was going to pull the engine and transmission.?? First question. Is the
engine compartment body color or black? My car was completely repainted,
inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of red that now needs serious
help. The engine compartment was painted black. I figure if I'm going to
repaint everything
, I might as well do it right.? Second question. I've heard of people
pulling the engine from the top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my
bench-pressing days are way behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of
the car myself if I pull from the bottom. I don't see a good place to
attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of the
car over the edge of the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar
and chain the rear frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air,
minus the front crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission,
strip the engine to the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would
be the best way, and why?? Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are
out, I'm going to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want
to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive
and have fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using
a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because o
f the ZDDP issue, parts availability, reliability, small boost in power,
etc. How much do I hurt the value of the car by having the original
engine/tranny available but newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the stock
units?
Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
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