[Tigers] Fwd: Tigers eng removal
Lance Beauchamp
blance598 at gmail.com
Sat Dec 4 08:13:39 MST 2021
Thanks for the info. Great explanation of the process.
On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, 10:02 AM <jvparlanti at gmail.com> wrote:
> Steve,
>
>
>
> 1. The engine compartment color should be the body color.
> 2. I’ve taken engines out dozens of times and out the bottom is the
> way to go. I normally take 2 of the front crossmember bolts out and thread
> them into the top inside the engine compartment after putting them through
> a link of large chain. Now you have something to lift with. While
> supporting the car via this chain and hoist, remove the other 2 crossmember
> bolts. Raise the car up leaving the crossmember (with the wheels still on
> it) on the ground. You’ll need to wiggle it as things are going up to get
> it clear. Once high enough, roll the crossmember out from under the car.
> Now lower the car back down until the engine rests on an engine dolly.
> Remove the motor mounts and anything else still attached leaving the
> transmission with the engine. Lift the body leaving the engine on the
> cradle. Roll the engine / transmission out the front.
> 3. I drive my car a lot, usually 3,000 to 5,000 miles per year so I
> went with a non-stock approach. I still have my numbers matching 260 in a
> baggie in my garage but built a very nice 302 for my car. I also installed
> Dale’s 5-speed a couple of years ago. Transformed the car.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>
>
> JVP
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 16048 Copen Meadow Dr
> North Potomac, MD 20878
> Cell - 410-599-5475
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> Email - jvparlanti at gmail.com
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> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Lance
> Beauchamp via Tigers
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 4, 2021 9:22 AM
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> *Subject:* [Tigers] Fwd: Tigers eng removal
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> I've had my midnight blue Tiger 35 years now, and when I did my eng over
> it came out the bottom. Much easier especially when reinstalling a fresh
> eng into a newly painted compartment which will also be Midnight blue.
>
> My car is presently being totally refreshed, good luck and have fun.
> Beau
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> 1. Engine removal/ paint questions (steve wick)
> 2. Re: Engine removal/ paint questions (GARY WINBLAD)
> 3. Re: Engine removal/ paint questions (Daniel Eiland)
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> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 02:14:47 +0000
> From: steve wick <srwick at hotmail.com>
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> Subject: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions
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> This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 20
> years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the
> wiring and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last 10
> years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due
> to work, health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going
> through my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus,
> getting it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue)
> throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and
> transmission.
> First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My car
> was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of red
> that now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black. I
> figure if I'm going to repaint everything, I might as well do it right.
> Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from the top
> and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way
> behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull from
> the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car
> lift, so can position the front of the car over the edge of the platform,
> block up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down
> and lift the whole car in the air, minus the front
> crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine to
> the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best way, and
> why?
> Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to
> "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a rare
> car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have fun
> with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using a roller cam
> 302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issue, parts availability,
> reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt the value of the
> car by having the original engine/tranny available but newer stuff
> installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?
>
> Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
>
> Steve
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> From: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>
> To: steve wick <srwick at hotmail.com>, steve wick via Tigers
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> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions
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> Steve,
>
> Its a shame you couldn't get it reliable in 20 years...
> A full restore is always nice though.
> Engine compartment should be body color, my car was Midnight Blue too and
> if I ever get around to it, I think I may go back to original too.
> A 5.0/5speed transforms the car to a modern car. you won't wan to go
> back. I just have a stock cam Mustang engine but its awesome fast
> and loves to cruise at 80 with good mileage.
> I use my 4-post lift to drop the engine/tranny out the bottom, worked
> slick. I wouldn't try to hang it over the end though.
> Gary
>
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> > On 12/03/2021 9:14 PM steve wick via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger
> for 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with
> the wiring and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last 10
> years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due
> to work, health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going
> through my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus,
> getting it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue)
> throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and
> transmission.
> > First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My
> car was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of
> red that now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black.
> I figure if I'm going to repaint everything, I might as well do it right.
> > Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from the
> top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way
> behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull from
> the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car
> lift, so can position the front of the car over the edge of the platform,
> block up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down
> and lift the whole car in the air, minus the front
> crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine to
> the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best way, and
> why?
> > Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to
> "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a rare
> car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have fun
> with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using a roller cam
> 302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issue, parts availability,
> reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt the value of the
> car by having the original engine/tranny available but newer stuff
> installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?
> >
> > Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
> >
> > Steve
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> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 05:29:12 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Daniel Eiland <deiland1 at att.net>
> To: steve wick <srwick at hotmail.com>, steve wick via Tigers
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> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions
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> Steve,
> I'm sure there are more knowledgeable people on the list who can answer
> your questions, but my input is free.
> On question 1, when I owned my Tiger it was a one owner all original car,
> so my response is based on my old car. The engine compartment was body
> color. Entire car was painted body color.
> Question 2, IIRC, the engine was mounted to the front suspension and they
> dropped the car down onto the suspension. I've always read it was easier
> and safer to do the same if you can. Since I never had to remove my engine
> and tranny I'll have to leave this to someone more knowledgeable than me.
> Question 3, I haven't noticed if a stock, original Tiger sells for any
> more or less than one with an engine and transmission upgrade as long as
> all the work looks like it was done at the factory. The best compromise is
> to stay with bolt-on upgrades only and keep all the original parts and
> store them properly. This way if you ever sell your car and a future owner
> wants to return it to its original configuration they can easily unbolt
> your modifications and bolt all the original parts back on the car.
> Hope this helps a little.?
> Dan Eiland?Ex Tiger Owner
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> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 7:15 PM, steve wick via Tigers<
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: #yiv8173281967 P
> {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}This will be a long post, so please bear
> with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. I
> had constant problems with the wiring and fuel system that left me stranded
> several times. The last 10 years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100
> miles per year, mainly due to work, health issues, time and the
> unreliability issue. I plan on going through my Tiger this winter, updating
> the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting it ready to go back to the
> original paint color (Midnight Blue) throughout the car. As part of that, I
> was going to pull the engine and transmission.?? First question. Is the
> engine compartment body color or black? My car was completely repainted,
> inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of red that now needs serious
> help. The engine compartment was painted black. I figure if I'm going to
> repaint everything
> , I might as well do it right.? Second question. I've heard of people
> pulling the engine from the top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my
> bench-pressing days are way behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of
> the car myself if I pull from the bottom. I don't see a good place to
> attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of the
> car over the edge of the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar
> and chain the rear frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air,
> minus the front crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission,
> strip the engine to the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would
> be the best way, and why?? Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are
> out, I'm going to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want
> to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive
> and have fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using
> a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because o
> f the ZDDP issue, parts availability, reliability, small boost in power,
> etc. How much do I hurt the value of the car by having the original
> engine/tranny available but newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the stock
> units?
> Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
> Steve_______________________________________________
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