[Spridgets] Tie Rod Removal

[Ron Soave]

Yeah, and aside from 20+ years in design, I now pay the liability insurance on products flying near and far. 

Ron Soave
President
Kaney Aerospace Inc.
1321 Capital Drive
Rockford, IL 61109

> On Oct 26, 2017, at 9:47 AM, dwoerpel via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> OK, I gotta weigh in on this.  I worked for 14 years volunteering with the EAA restoring their B-25 and working on sundry others (Grumman Duck, P-51, Spanish Bf 109, P-64, & B-17 to name a few).  Military is unforgiving.  3 threads must show through the nut, Nylock nuts only used 3 times, any flaws on any fastener and it was replaced.  Pretty understandable given the duty of the parts and the loads.  Many of those better condition fasteners found their way home to the garage and have been used for various non-stress related projects.  If it's a safety related item it gets replaced.  Although aeronautical standards can seem extreme (they are) think about it the next time you're in an A340 or 787 or whatever.  I carry that philosophy to ground transportation as well.  Structural & safety related pieces get replaced.  That's just me. 
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> HOWEVER!...there may be instances where it's not practical or desired.  1.  Those of us with historically "correct" cars are loath to replace anything not original.  50 or 60 year old fasteners on something structural do need to be replaced and there are companies that make the old fasteners in the original style.  2.  One must consider the quality of the replacement part; is it "bootleg"(where have I heard that before...Frank!) or incorrect fit? It can be tough to find good parts.  
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> This whole dissertation is a long winded way of advising when in doubt, replace it.  Like Larry said, it's up to you.
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> OR, buy a Morgan and you'll replace those parts often as they vibrate off the car!  ;-)
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> Just my $2.00
> Safety Fast!
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> Dave W
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>> On 10/25/2017 12:04 PM, Larry Macy via Spridgets wrote:
>> IMHO, where safety counts, like suspension, brakes and tires, reusing a worn piece is a fool’s errand. Nuts, bolts, lock washers and tie rod ends are cheap, considering the difference between life and death. I don’t buy cheap tires, cheap brake parts, or plastic bits where I can avoid it. 
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>> It’s your life, do as you find comfortable. 
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>> Larry
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>>> On Oct 25, 2017, at 8:05 AM, Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
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>>> We all think differently, I guess. In the case we are talking about here, this tie rod was replaced 17 years ago.  They are around $11. They are as difficult to change after removal as a nut.  You can remove without replacing, sure. But per your "logic" do you buy one of each bolt for a lifetime because the wrench empowers you to do so? Do you re-use bolts in critical suspension applications? Do you re-use lockwashers? Do you re-use cotter pins? You certainly can. Or, because they are so inexpensive relative to the importance of the function that they serve, do you replace them as a matter of course when you are working in that area? To me, go ahead and buy the tool (I have one) and replace the critical wear item (I do).
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>>> Tutti I gusti son' gusti.
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>>> Ron Soave
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>>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 6:34 PM, David Lieb via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
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>>>> On Oct 24, 2017 6:10 PM, "Ron Soave via Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> The tool costs more than a call joint, the definition of false economy.
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>>>> 
>>>> Huh? So you don't buy wrenches cuz they cost more than the bolts they remove? 9 out of 10 tools cost more than the objects they are used on. We buy them because we intend to use them over and over. At least that is what I tell my wife... There are a number of tools I own for the simple joy of a fine tool, although I can't justify the cost of a Phil Wood spoke cutter/threader.
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