[Healeys] Low tension Wire

Bob Haskell rchaskell at earthlink.net
Mon Nov 13 06:24:04 MST 2023 

George,


It will work, but I don't think that it will last as long.


I bought some leads from Martin at the Distributor Doctor 
<https://www.distributordoctor.com/low_tension_connectors.htm> in the 
UK.  I believe British Car Specialists sells some of their parts.

Bob Haskell
Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar

On 11/12/23 19:47, george mcharris wrote:
> I just purchased one from Moss and they use a standard wire...It 
> should work ?? What say you ??
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>    1. Re: Low tension wire (John Vrugtman)
>    2. Re: Low tension wire (Michael Salter)
>    3. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion (Michael Oritt)
>    4. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion (HealeyRick)
>    5. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
>       (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
>    6. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion (john spaur)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 15:59:51 -0500
> From: John Vrugtman <javrugtman at htcnet.org>
> To: healeys at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low tension wire
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> *Now that's perfect example of thinking outside the box; shoe laces for
> ignition wire covers.*
>
> On 11/11/2023 10:19 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote:
> > Bob, yes they actually do have a "braided" cloth insulation sleeve
> > over the braided copper wire originally.? I think the material is 
> cotton.
> > I would try using shoe laces. You may have to buy a few types to get
> > what you want but I found a tubular type of lace which has an inner
> > tube component on Amazon which is just about perfect for the job.
> >
> > M
> >
> > On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 9:48 a.m. Bob Spidell, <bspidell at comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >     I don't think I've seen one covered in cloth.
> >
> > 
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> <https://www.amazon.com/BENECREAT-Braided-Flexible-Grounding-Reducing/dp/B0BGX937NC?th=1>
> >
> >
> > 
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> >
> >     On 11/11/2023 4:59 AM, S and T Miller wrote:
> >>     Does anyone know the specifications and/or source of the
> >>     distributor low tension cloth covered black wire lead? Interested
> >>     in the gauge and type of wire as original, because of the look
> >>     and its exceptional flexibility.
> >>
> >>     I do realize that there are a few sources for the leads, but I'd
> >>     rather have a length to keep on hand to make my own.
> >>     TY, Shawn
> >>
> >>     The Millers
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> >>     a test drive."
> >>
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> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 19:47:44 -0500
> From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
> To: "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low tension wire
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> I must give credit where credit is due.
> The shoe laces idea is one I got from Andy Thorp in New Zealand.
>
> M
>
> On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 5:22 p.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> > *Now that's perfect example of thinking outside the box; shoe laces for
> > ignition wire covers.*
> >
> > On 11/11/2023 10:19 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote:
> >
> > Bob, yes they actually do have a "braided" cloth insulation sleeve over
> > the braided copper wire originally.  I think the material is cotton.
> > I would try using shoe laces. You may have to buy a few types to get 
> what
> > you want but I found a tubular type of lace which has an inner tube
> > component on Amazon which is just about perfect for the job.
> >
> > M
> >
> > On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 9:48 a.m. Bob Spidell, <bspidell at comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I don't think I've seen one covered in cloth.
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FBENECREAT-Braided-Flexible-Grounding-Reducing%2Fdp%2FB0BGX937NC%3Fth%3D1&data=05%7C01%7C%7C692dd86501e9430d22d308dbe3d5667b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638354277935599543%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=4CRiiLy5DQxlkTEwJ7XfbKUZc1dGPq4Enw4bdfnBCWo%3D&reserved=0 
> <https://www.amazon.com/BENECREAT-Braided-Flexible-Grounding-Reducing/dp/B0BGX937NC?th=1>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FBENECREAT-Braided-Flexible-Grounding-Reducing%2Fdp%2FB0BGX937NC%3Fth%3D1&data=05%7C01%7C%7C692dd86501e9430d22d308dbe3d5667b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638354277935599543%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=4CRiiLy5DQxlkTEwJ7XfbKUZc1dGPq4Enw4bdfnBCWo%3D&reserved=0 
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> >>
> >> On 11/11/2023 4:59 AM, S and T Miller wrote:
> >>
> >> Does anyone know the specifications and/or source of the 
> distributor low
> >> tension cloth covered black wire lead? Interested in the gauge and 
> type of
> >> wire as original, because of the look and its exceptional flexibility.
> >>
> >> I do realize that there are a few sources for the leads, but I'd rather
> >> have a length to keep on hand to make my own.
> >> TY, Shawn
> >>
> >> The Millers
> >>
> >> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test
> >> drive."
> >>
> >>
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> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 20:52:04 -0500
> From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
> To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
> Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
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> "short of putting lard in"
> -------------------------------
> The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars' 
> rears
> to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are mostly
> > caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a
> > process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the 
> book'
> > and it's a bit noisy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up, which 
> isn't
> > often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which 
> seemed to
> > help a little but short of putting lard in I don't think there's a
> > 'solution in a can.'
> >
> > My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustangs
> > had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. 
> IIRC, DWM
> > sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.
> >
> >
> > On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% 
> Chrome
> > Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.  Factory
> > spec.
> >
> > Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:
> >
> > After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets
> > being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that
> > people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 
> 3.66/1
> > in my BN1.
> > There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are meant
> > to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with 
> these?
> >
> > M
> >
> > On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, <
> > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?  I ask,
> > because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to
> > replace it.
> >
> > John
> > Hightown, VA
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 08:33:20 -0500
> From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
> Cc: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>, healeys at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
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> I thought sawdust was the preferred additive.
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:43?PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "short of putting lard in"
> > -------------------------------
> > The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars'
> > rears to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are 
> mostly
> >> caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a
> >> process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by 
> the book'
> >> and it's a bit noisy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up, which 
> isn't
> >> often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which 
> seemed to
> >> help a little but short of putting lard in I don't think there's a
> >> 'solution in a can.'
> >>
> >> My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early 
> Mustangs
> >> had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. 
> IIRC, DWM
> >> sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:
> >>
> >> Michael,
> >>
> >> For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% 
> Chrome
> >> Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.  Factory
> >> spec.
> >>
> >> Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:
> >>
> >> After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets
> >> being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that
> >> people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 
> 3.66/1
> >> in my BN1.
> >> There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are 
> meant
> >> to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with 
> these?
> >>
> >> M
> >>
> >> On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, <
> >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?  I ask,
> >> because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to
> >> replace it.
> >>
> >> John
> >> Hightown, VA
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:45:35 -0000
> From: <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
> To: "'Michael Oritt'" <michael.oritt at gmail.com>, "'Bob Spidell'"
> <bspidell at comcast.net>
> Cc: <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
> Message-ID: <002d01da156e$84ec8590$8ec590b0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
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> Women?s stockings were reputedly another favourite.
>
>
>
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Oritt
> Sent: 12 November 2023 01:52
> To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
> Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
>
>
>
> "short of putting lard in"
>
> -------------------------------
>
> The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars' 
> rears to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net 
> <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net>> > wrote:
>
> I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are 
> mostly caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a 
> process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the 
> book' and it's a bit noisy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up, 
> which isn't often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 
> 75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting lard in I 
> don't think there's a 'solution in a can.'
>
> My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early 
> Mustangs had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on 
> occasion. IIRC, DWM sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.
>
>
>
> On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% 
> Chrome Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.  
> Factory spec.
>
> Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!
>
> Best,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:
>
> After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets 
> being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that 
> people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 
> 3.66/1 in my BN1.
>
> There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are 
> meant to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success 
> with these?
>
>
>
> M
>
>
>
> On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, 
> <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net 
> <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> > wrote:
>
> Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set? I ask,
> because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to
> replace it.
>
> John
> Hightown, VA
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:16:04 +0000
> From: john spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
> To: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>, Michael Oritt
> <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
> Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
> Message-ID:
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> Many years ago I had a friend who said he used a mixture of banana 
> peels and sawdust. I am not sure what the ratio was but you could Stat 
> with a 50/50 mix. ???
>
> ________________________________
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of HealeyRick 
> <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2023 5:33:20 AM
> To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
> Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
>
> I thought sawdust was the preferred additive.
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:43?PM Michael Oritt 
> <michael.oritt at gmail.com<mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com>> wrote:
> "short of putting lard in"
> -------------------------------
> The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars' 
> rears to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell 
> <bspidell at comcast.net<mailto:bspidell at comcast.net>> wrote:
> I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are 
> mostly caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a 
> process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the 
> book' and it's a bit noisy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up, 
> which isn't often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 
> 75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting lard in I 
> don't think there's a 'solution in a can.'
>
> My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early 
> Mustangs had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on 
> occasion. IIRC, DWM sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.
>
>
> On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% 
> Chrome Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.  
> Factory spec.
>
> Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!
>
> Best,
>
> Peter
>
>
> On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:
>
> After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets 
> being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that 
> people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 
> 3.66/1 in my BN1.
> There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are 
> meant to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success 
> with these?
>
> M
>
> On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, 
> <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set? I ask,
> because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to
> replace it.
>
> John
> Hightown, VA
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