[Healeys] Mystery casting number on Austin 6 cylinder engine - AGAIN

Mark Donaldson ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz
Mon Dec 6 14:55:56 MST 2021


To add to Steve’s comments  . . .  I have a spare engine to back up my BJ8 engine.

It is from a Wolseley 6/110 Mk II and the block is exactly the same, also with part number 12B 766, and the stylised ‘M’ in the diamond directly below the engine number.  

Right or wrong, I have always understood that logo to represent the engine manufacturer – Morris.

 

Cheers

Mark

 

Ardmore

NZ

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: BJ8Healeys <sbyers at ec.rr.com> 
Sent: Monday, 6 December 2021 8:36 AM
To: pdzwig at summaventures.com
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery casting number on Austin 6 cylinder engine - AGAIN

 

Peter, since you referred Mr. Mayor to my comment of 16 March 2014 at BCF, I need to follow up.   I still believe 12B 766 is a part number.  Exactly which part, I don't know.  It isn't specifically identified as a serviceable part in the parts manual, which to me means that it wasn't a part that could be ordered from a dealer, so I interpreted it as a casting number.  My BJ8 engine has the same number in the same place. 

The BMC Mechanical Service Parts List for BJ7/BJ8 (Publication number AKD 3523) identifies several other detail parts of the engine that have similar part numbers, e.g.

Piston Assembly 12B 1159

Camshaft  12B 594

Crankshaft pulley with damper  12B 1274

Washer, nut (crankshaft dog nut) 12B 681

 

Other engine parts have similar, but different initial numbers Flywheel  22B 136 Cylinder side cover (center) 2A 770

 

I'm sure the 12 or 12B and similar codes meant something to BMC but to know exactly what we would need more BMC design documentation than what appears to be available now.  12 or 12B means some part of an engine assembly, I would guess.

 

Someone some time ago was trying to document engine casting codes in an effort to figure out what they meant (date of the casting, etc.) but I forget now who that was.  I never paid much attention to those markings because I didn't think they were helpful in identification of a car, but since that post to the list I did try to identify those markings on my BJ8 engine and document as many others as possible.  Some of them are very difficult to access with the engine and other stuff installed.  The few I did record as reported by owners are these:

 

24A40 (or 24A49, last digit partially illegible) - engine 29K/RU/H977 7M4C - 29K/RU/H1670 D4C - 29K/RU/H1753 24A4C - 29K/RU/H1477 3H4D - 29K/RU/H3186 27H4C - 29K/RU/H5843

C23F5 - 29K/RU/H6295

C21F5 - 29K/RU/H11327 (my engine. Has 1 63 on the driver's side, both were cast with the block.

 

The apparent casting number of the unknown engine at BCF was L3C.

 

I do not know what the "M" in a diamond-shape logo means, but my engine has it also.

 

For what it's worth.....

 

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  USA

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Healeys [ <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Dzwig via Healeys

Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 11:55 AM

To: richard mayor; healeys

Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery casting number on Austin 6 cylinder engine - AGAIN

 

Try again!

 

As far as I can see from the manuals and sites I have looked at, the form "AEC xyz" is the standard BMC parts format for pretty much anything), e.g. AEC 607 is a C series liner.

 

Now, see this page (no, really!)

 

< <https://www.britishcarforum.com/community/threads/help-me-identify-the-engine.95536/> https://www.britishcarforum.com/community/threads/help-me-identify-the-engine.95536/>

 

look at the second photo which shows the number and some sort of logo beneath it. Now follow the contributions by "BJ8 Healey".

 

My guess - and it is only that - is that 12B refers to a block cast by whoever's logo that is and 266 is the sequence number in the run *not* a part number.

 

Regards,

 

Peter

 

On 05/12/2021 12:01, Peter Dzwig via Healeys wrote:

> Richard,

> 

> see here:

> 

> <https://www.ahexp.com/forum/the-100-six-forum.5/100-6-cylinder-weslak

> e-head-numbers.183672/>

> 

> It doesn't address your *specific* number but I guess that the answer 

> is in line with what it says there namely that it's a Westlake head.

> 

> Regards,

> 

> Peter

> 

> On 05/12/2021 01:26, richard mayor via Healeys wrote:

>> What I thought was an Austin Healey 3000 engine has a casting number on

>> the side of the block 12B266.    It has the early style Austin block

>> with the tachometer drive housing.  The boss for the engine tag is in 

>> the same place as the 3000 engines.

>> 

>> I looked at a couple of early 3000 engines and the casting numbers on 

>> them are AEC881.

>> 

>> Does anyone know what engine this is?

>> 

>> Richard

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