[Healeys] Paint type and color

[Curtis Arndt]

Steve and Fellow Listers,

There are two great vendors in the US.

Maxwell Enamels, Vista, CA...

http://www.maxwellenamels.com/Home_Page.html

I am a friend of the owner Karla Maxwell (25 years) and she has done work
for me an I have done work for her (Bakelite restoration).

*She is expensive, and for most badges just buy a quality one from Moss or
other vendors.*

Moss Motors has a very nice one for $134.00, $239.99 for MKII badges and
$249.99 for MKIII badges... Less on sale.

Expect to pay $250-$350 plus to have your original restored.

https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-wings?assoc=6725

https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-mk-ii?assoc=7568

https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-mk-iii?assoc=7569

The other vendor is Emblemagic in Grand River, OH...

http://emblemagic.com/

Ray Geschke is the owner, and also very knowledgeable.

Cheers,

Curt

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 3:49 AM BJ8Healeys <sbyers at ec.rr.com> wrote:

> There still seems to be some confusion between the *type of construction*
> of the badge and the *material* that is in the colored part.
>
> Cloisonné and champlevé are jewelers' terms that refer to how the badge is
> constructed, while the red material is either "vitreous enamel" or paint.
>
>
>
> From the Merriam-Webster dictionary:
>
> *Definition of cloisonné (adjective)*
>
> *: *of, relating to, or being a style of enamel decoration in which the
> enamel is applied and fired in *raised* cells (as of soldered wires) on a
> usually metal background — compare champlevé
> <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/champlevé>
>
> *Definition of champlevé (adjective) *
>
> *: *of, relating to, or being a style of enamel decoration in which the
> enamel is applied and fired in cells *depressed* (as by incising) into a
> metal background — compare cloisonné
> <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cloisonné>
>
>
>
> *Definition of vitreous enamel (noun) *
>
> *: *a fired-on opaque glassy coating on steel or other metals
>
> — called also porcelain enamel
>
>
>
> Based on these definitions, the BJ7/BJ8 badge *construction* is
> champlevé, while the red *material* is vitreous enamel or paint.  Some
> have claimed that their badge never had either material but were plain
> chrome.
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve Byers
>
> HBJ8L/36666
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
>
> Havelock, NC
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Bob
> Spidell
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 17, 2018 2:21 PM
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color
>
>
>
> While I normally wouldn't contradict Michael--he's a pro and I'm an
> amateur--that isn't correct.  What's in our badges--until late BJ8s anyway,
> which were painted--is *Champlevé:*
>
>
> https://beautifulantiquetreasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-difference-between-champleve-and-cloisonne-enamel/
>
> This is usually cited as the goto place for badge restoration, but I hear
> they are horribly backlogged:
>
> http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/17/2018 4:17 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
>
> Bad news Lin, the red in the badges is not paint, it is cloisonné.
> Thats a type of glass and paint just doesn't look the same.
>
>
>
> There are places where you can get it redone.
>
>
>
> .
>
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