<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Steve and Fellow Listers,<div><br></div><div>There are two great vendors in the US.</div><div><br></div><div>Maxwell Enamels, Vista, CA...</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.maxwellenamels.com/Home_Page.html" target="_blank">http://www.maxwellenamels.com/Home_Page.html</a> </div><div><br></div><div>I am a friend of the owner Karla Maxwell (25 years) and she has done work for me an I have done work for her (Bakelite restoration).</div><div><br></div><div><b>She is expensive, and for most badges just buy a quality one from Moss or other vendors.</b></div><div><br></div><div>Moss Motors has a very nice one for $134.00, $239.99 for MKII badges and $249.99 for MKIII badges... Less on sale.  </div><div><br></div><div>Expect to pay $250-$350 plus to have your original restored.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-wings?assoc=6725" target="_blank">https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-wings?assoc=6725</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-mk-ii?assoc=7568" target="_blank">https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-mk-ii?assoc=7568</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-mk-iii?assoc=7569" target="_blank">https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-mk-iii?assoc=7569</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>The other vendor is Emblemagic in Grand River, OH...</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://emblemagic.com/" target="_blank">http://emblemagic.com/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ray Geschke is the owner, and also very knowledgeable.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Curt</div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 3:49 AM BJ8Healeys <<a href="mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com" target="_blank">sbyers@ec.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-1985176752011894194m_-872415036259332062m_-3947903033422735464WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">There still seems to be some confusion between the <u>type of construction</u> of the badge and the <u>material</u> that is in the colored part.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">Cloisonné and champlevé are jewelers' terms that refer to how the badge is constructed, while the red material is either "vitreous enamel" or paint.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">From the Merriam-Webster dictionary:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">Definition of <i>cloisonné (adjective)</i><u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">of, relating to, or being a style of enamel decoration in which the enamel is applied and fired in <u>raised</u> cells (as of soldered wires) on a usually metal background — compare <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/champlevé" target="_blank">champlevé</a> <br><br><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">Definition of <i>champlevé (adjective) </i><u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">of, relating to, or being a style of enamel decoration in which the enamel is applied and fired in cells <u>depressed</u> (as by incising) into a metal background — compare <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cloisonné" target="_blank">cloisonné</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">Definition of <i>vitreous enamel (noun) </i><u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">a fired-on opaque glassy coating on steel or other metals <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">— called also porcelain enamel <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">Based on these definitions, the BJ7/BJ8 badge <u>construction</u> is champlevé, while the red <u>material</u> is vitreous enamel or paint.  Some have claimed that their badge never had either material but were plain chrome.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">Steve Byers</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">HBJ8L/36666</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">BJ8 Registry</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">Havelock, NC  </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> Healeys [mailto:<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 17, 2018 2:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p>While I normally wouldn't contradict Michael--he's a pro and I'm an amateur--that isn't correct.  What's in our badges--until late BJ8s anyway, which were painted--is <strong>Champlevé:</strong><u></u><u></u></p><p><a href="https://beautifulantiquetreasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-difference-between-champleve-and-cloisonne-enamel/" target="_blank">https://beautifulantiquetreasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-difference-between-champleve-and-cloisonne-enamel/</a><u></u><u></u></p><p>This is usually cited as the goto place for badge restoration, but I hear they are horribly backlogged:<u></u><u></u></p><p><a href="http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/</a><u></u><u></u></p><p>Bob<u></u><u></u></p><p><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 10/17/2018 4:17 AM, Michael Salter wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Bad news Lin, the red in the badges is not paint, it is <span style="font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white">cloisonné.</span><br>Thats a type of glass and paint just doesn't look the same.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">There are places where you can get it redone.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:#002060">.</span><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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