[Healeys] Missing under Load

Thu Jun 4 06:02:41 MDT 2015

Even better, in the latest 123-ignition you can program any advance 
curve you want using a lap top, so ideal if you have a tuned engine.
Kees Oudesluijs

Simon Lachlan schreef op 4-6-2015 om 13:20:
>
> Not 100% sure what you mean by “the advance curves are retained”. In 
> the 123 you can choose your advance curve.
>
> And I’m sure one of the built in choice approximates to the original.
>
> And yes(!), I too have a complete Lucas dizzie in my boot. The correct 
> rotor arm, decent old Champion plug caps, bumble bee copper wire. 
> Fitted with a Pertronix. Points also carried on longer expeditions. 
> Belt and braces!!
>
> Simon
>
> *From:*Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 04 June 2015 07:33
> *To:* Simon Lachlan
> *Cc:* Bob Spidell; Healey list
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Missing under Load
>
> The advantage with Pertonix over 123 is the advance curves are 
> retained and also if your pertronix does fry, keeping points in the 
> boot is easy for a backup. I have a 123 in my A90 and I keep a full 
> lucas dizzy with attached cam driveshaft in the boot, just in case.  
> Call me strange.
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Simon Lachlan 
> <simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk <mailto:simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk>> 
> wrote:
>
> Or get a 123Ignition distributor.
>
> Simon
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net 
> <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>] *On Behalf Of *Bob Spidell
> *Sent:* 04 June 2015 06:09
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Missing under Load
>
> Agree across-the-board.   Had same problem with suppressor wires; 
> installed copper stranded wires and no problem in 60K miles or so.
>
>
>
> re: "Strongly suggested I install points instead of the Petronics."   
> Why?  Does he recommend blood-letting and trepanning for headaches?  I 
> know Jeff is an acknowledged expert, but disagree with the points 
> recommendation.  Name a modern manufacturer--they of the 100K mile 
> tuneups--that recommends points?  Have (probably) 80K miles on 
> Pertronix--with OEM Lucas cap and stranded wires--with no ignition 
> issues (save the occasional well-known bad rotor).  If you like 
> changing points every 5K miles, fine, but it's not the solution to 
> every ignition problem.
>
> You need: OEM Lucas distributor cap (if you can find one), stranded 
> copper wire secondary wires, OEM Lucas suppressor plug caps, good 
> plugs, and a quality rotor.
>
> Bob
>
> On 6/3/2015 6:33 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:
>
>     If you are running suppressed modern wires into your standard
>     Lucas cap, you can have huge problems, as the graphite type
>     materials they use in these don't like connecting to the screw
>     connector in the Lucas cap .  You need to use metal core wires,
>     such as bumble bee wire.
>
>     Also did you check distributor shaft wobble?  If your dizzy bushes
>     are worn, and you have excessive wobble, you could also be having
>     similar problems.
>
>     Lastly, check internal wires/insulating washers in the dizzy make
>     sure it is all kosher.
>
>     On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:24 AM, R. Price Lindsay
>     <050.rpl at gmail.com <mailto:050.rpl at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Took the BJ8 out today. Changed the plug wire to #6 (there was a
>     visible spark last night).  The car struggled big time  Had to
>     change rotors every 3 miles in order to get the car home. Driving
>     along and all of a sudden backfire, black smoke, nothing.  Changed
>     the rotor (it was noticeably hot) and got another 2 or 3 miles out
>     of it.  Looked tonight in the dark and the visible spark from
>     number 6 plug was not there.  Talked to Jeff with Advanced
>     Distributors and he suggested it was plug wires.  Strongly
>     suggested I install points instead of the Petronics.  At his
>     suggestion, I checked the ohm reading on the plug wires and they
>     checked out OK.  Still wondering if it could be bad gas, I did add
>     a product called “Heat.”  Supposed to absorb any water that may be
>     in the gas tank.  Not much help, so far.
>
>     I’m waiting for the plug wires and distributor cap from Moss
>     Motors to show up to install them.  Hope that helps but not really
>     convinced it’s the solution.
>
>     Do you guys have any words of wisdom for me?
>
>     Price Lindsay
>     67 BJ8
>
>
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