[Fot] Fwd: Cold Fuel expansion rate

Fri Sep 27 07:20:27 MDT 2019

I run a construction equipment dealership here in Austin and we put in a
concrete parking lot this spring. We used to park the equipment on the dirt
and never noticed fuel "growth" issues in the past, but it sure is obvious
on concrete. We had a lot of 100 degree days this summer. We have a lot of
large tanks approaching 100 gallon and with fuel filled at 75 degrees in
the morning we had to drain off multiple gallons at 5 PM when it started
spilling out the cap vents.

Bob Kramer

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 6:35 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Found this on line.  Looks like if the gas started at 50 degrees it would
> expand from 7.2 gallons to 7.28 gallons at 70 degrees.
>
> https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/volumetric-temperature-expansion-d_315.html
> Looks like a big fuel line would give more of an edge, or coming in early
> a quick stop for 10 seconds to add a gallon of fuel.  No idea how
> accessible refueling is on a SRF.
>
> On Sep 26, 2019, at 10:28 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Funny this came up today:
>
> https://vintageracecar.com/cool-fuel-penske-and-the-art-of-refuelling/2/
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 26, 2019, at 5:20 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Smokey signed all of our event posters at that 1992 event.
> Bill Dentinger
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> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
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> On Thursday, September 26, 2019, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I think Smokey Yunick also built a scaled down Chevy Malibu that looked
> correct. Don’t recall if he got caught before he raced it however. I guess
> he was good at bending the rules. One of the Nascar tracks has a section in
> their museum devoted to what’s been discovered as cheating over the years.
> It’s pretty interesting to see.
> JVV
>
> *From:* Scott Janzen via Fot
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 26, 2019 7:10 PM
> *To:* 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
> *Subject:* [Fot] Fwd: Cold Fuel
>
> Both ideas sound like fun in an accident.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> *From:* Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Date:* September 26, 2019 at 6:22:18 PM EDT
> *To:* "fot at autox. team. net" <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* *Re: [Fot] Cold Fuel*
> *Reply-To:* tr4racing at googlemail.com
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> Or roll cage.
>
>
> *Von:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *Im Auftrag von *Jerry Van Vlack
> via Fot
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 27. September 2019 00:12
> *An:* Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>; fot at autox.team.net
> *Betreff:* Re: [Fot] Cold Fuel
>
>
> Do what one of the Nascar guys did and plumb some extra fuel into your
> frame.
>
>
> *From:* Barr, Scott via Fot
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 26, 2019 5:51 PM
>
> *To:* fot at autox.team.net
>
> *Subject:* [Fot] Cold Fuel
>
>
> So, how cold does the fuel have to be in order to have any significant
> affect on volume?  I need to make 7.2 gallons of fuel go 75 minutes at Road
> America this weekend, where I typically burn a bit more than 1 gallon every
> 10 minutes.  I could soft-pedal it to save some fuel, but there is some
> quick competition out there.
>
>
> Scott (B.)
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