[Fot] Has anybody ran these new brake calipers?

[Tony Drews]

Some of the most fun I've had driving was on skinny Dunlops. Major 
drift, big slip angles, what a hoot.  If we could get everyone to run 
that kind of thing it would be neat.  I don't think that's possible in 
the context of running within mixed marque groups though.

I do think that tire technology is why we need Southwick rear axles to 
begin with.

Tony


On 3/11/2018 10:51 AM, fubog1 via Fot wrote:
> Henry you not only get it, but also touch on one of the main issues.
> Yes tire technology has allowed these cars to go a lot faster than was 
> ever intended.
> They get faster and more stuff breaks; fix one thing and then the next 
> weak-link fails.
> At what point does it end?
> Rack & pinion steering, tubular adjustable front suspension, light 
> brake calipers, non-triumph gearboxes, wide rims, big-bore engines, 
> the latest greatest big-$$ rubber, etc, etc, etc; some folks are 
> willing and can afford to take it to the limit, some aren't/cant 
> afford it, especially with trying to stay within some set of rules.
> That's why tires are really the biggest equalizer, as difficult as it 
> may be to control nowadays; we really need to level the field.
> The other point is that we have to remember that we're VINTAGE racing 
> these cars, not doing ongoing development programs for GT cars...
> FWIW
> Safety FasTR!
> Glen
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Mar 11, 2018 11:02 am
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Has anybody ran these new brake calipers?
>
> As the person who innocently started this thread on the subject of the
> readily available reproduction steel 16P calipers, a part I can't
> construe how anybody could call a cheater part, I'll add my two cents...
>
> Tire technology moved Vintage Racing to a place that we can't go back
> from. Like it or not, in order to keep us safe at the speeds these new
> tires allow us to go, you need to get with the program or take your
> chances. Even the venerable Hoosier Vintage TD bias ply tire can be
> really fast in the right hands and we have proof many cars lost wheels
> running Vintage TD's. Safety enhancements were needed, and the gray area
> between whats a safety enhancement and a speed enhancement will always
> be the heart of the debate.
>
> As I am now taking care of Old Blue, Bill Dentinger's TR3, a car that
> has been considered the most vintage correct TR3 running in the States,
> this is an issue I have personally been grappling with. It became
> crystal clear to me that to be comfortable running the car at any level,
> there were some things they did "back in the day" that just don't cut it
> any more. Updating some bits to make sure all the wheels stay on the car
> is just common sense. Taking it beyond that, there lies the conundrum...
> For what it's worth, under my watch Old Blue will run worm and peg
> steering, 87mm bore, a Triumph gearbox, and as many of Bill's original
> Triumph Competition Dept. bits as I can. Good fun.
>
> Henry
>
> On 2018-03-10 02:18, Tony Drews via Fot wrote:
>
> > Not sure how a brake question turned into the annual "what is vintage"
> > debate - seems late in the season for it this time...
> >
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