[Fot] Has anybody ran these new brake calipers?

[fubog1]

Henry you not only get it, but also touch on one of the main issues.
Yes tire technology has allowed these cars to go a lot faster than was ever intended.
They get faster and more stuff breaks; fix one thing and then the next weak-link fails.
At what point does it end?
Rack & pinion steering, tubular adjustable front suspension, light brake calipers, non-triumph gearboxes, wide rims, big-bore engines, the latest greatest big-$$ rubber, etc, etc, etc; some folks are willing and can afford to take it to the limit, some aren't/cant afford it, especially with trying to stay within some set of rules.
That's why tires are really the biggest equalizer, as difficult as it may be to control nowadays; we really need to level the field.
The other point is that we have to remember that we're VINTAGE racing these cars, not doing ongoing development programs for GT cars...
FWIW
Safety FasTR!
Glen



 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Mar 11, 2018 11:02 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] Has anybody ran these new brake calipers?

As the person who innocently started this thread on the subject of the 
readily available reproduction steel 16P calipers, a part I can't 
construe how anybody could call a cheater part, I'll add my two cents...

Tire technology moved Vintage Racing to a place that we can't go back 
from. Like it or not, in order to keep us safe at the speeds these new 
tires allow us to go, you need to get with the program or take your 
chances. Even the venerable Hoosier Vintage TD bias ply tire can be 
really fast in the right hands and we have proof many cars lost wheels 
running Vintage TD's. Safety enhancements were needed, and the gray area 
between whats a safety enhancement and a speed enhancement will always 
be the heart of the debate.

As I am now taking care of Old Blue, Bill Dentinger's TR3, a car that 
has been considered the most vintage correct TR3 running in the States, 
this is an issue I have personally been grappling with. It became 
crystal clear to me that to be comfortable running the car at any level, 
there were some things they did "back in the day" that just don't cut it 
any more. Updating some bits to make sure all the wheels stay on the car 
is just common sense. Taking it beyond that, there lies the conundrum... 
For what it's worth, under my watch Old Blue will run worm and peg 
steering, 87mm bore, a Triumph gearbox, and as many of Bill's original 
Triumph Competition Dept. bits as I can. Good fun.

Henry

On 2018-03-10 02:18, Tony Drews via Fot wrote:

> Not sure how a brake question turned into the annual "what is vintage"
> debate - seems late in the season for it this time...
> 
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