[Fot] Non-LBC group question

Thu Oct 2 09:07:51 MDT 2008

The stude V8 oil burning was primarily due to valve guide
seals that hardened and disintegrated.  The 6's due to 
slop in the valve guile area and too much oil in the lifter valleys.
engine kits for the 6's came with a strip of spring steel to restrict
oil to that lifter valley.  Stude V8's consistently put way too much
oil to the rockers, unlike most of our tractor motors.
The overdrives were pretty darn nice.  my '62 stude pickup
has a small V8 and overdrive and works very well.  hope to
someday have occasion to tow a TR race car  to a race.

Studes were noted for strong engines,  rust,  rattles,
and oil leaks  -  makes them a very large Triumph with a 
good electrical system!

art de armond
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: RACER BUD 
  To: Steven Preiss ; edwardbarnard at prodigy.net 
  Cc: fot at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-LBC group question

  One of my favorite cars for Style was the (I think 53 stude..Golden Hawk?..no fins...when the fins were added..they were literaly 'attached')..i saw a NASCAR Hawk in a movie theater lobby promoting a movie which I cannot remember(mid -late 1950s)...That was one of the cars that added to the racing bug
  Racer Bud
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Steven Preiss 
    To: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net 
    Cc: fot at autox.team.net 
    Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 2:04 AM
    Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-LBC group question

    One of my neighborhood friends growing up was a Studebaker nut, a passion (or perhaps a genetic trait) no doubt inherited from his dad. They would work into the night in the carport on one or another of their cars, droplights providing a weary glow. The cars, which as I recall ranged from a 1950 convertible, painted red with a white top, to a sleek Silver Hawk with a 289 and glass packs, always seemed exotic in an atypical American sort of way. A buddy of theirs had what they referred to as 'the Studebaker farm', which was actually a small dairy farm, the main pasture of which was lined with over 100 Studebakers that had been hauled in from all over the countryside and carefully placed side by side around the perimeter, providing an endless supply of parts and projects. Martin was a somewhat laconic fellow who carpeted his cars with an array of carpet "chucks" gleaned from a local flooring company. He also was the first in our group of carpoolers to drive his own car to school. Some wild rides down narrow curving residential streets are emblazoned in my memory. One striking characteristic of the cars was the overdrives, activated by a little toggle switch always placed inconspicuously under the dash. Another was their propensity for burning oil, which meant that the dipstick became a familiar friend. Which leads me to the point. Whether a result of unintentional poor' design or intentional daily abuse, cans of STP were always kept in the trunks of the cars, along with quarts of inexpensive motor oil, giving true meaning to the term, "Studebaker Tested Products"!
    STeve P. ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: EDWARD BARNARD 
      To: ehusmann53 at yahoo.com ; dkettler at tcbi.com 
      Cc: FOT 
      Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 3:44 AM
      Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-LBC group question

            Lister's: Thank you to all that answered my question about STP. A call to their H.Q. public relations office this morning has revealed what we should assume is the truth. The STP does stand for Scientifically Treated Petroleum. The Wiki reference to it standing for Studebaker Tested Products is in fact true. The company did tie their name to the product for a short time until Andy G. took over. But, the Wiki reference to King Richard no longer being a spokeperson for the company is false. According to the P.R. department, they have the longest commercial endorse in history. 
            Thanks again to the list!
             -Ed-

            --- On Tue, 9/30/08, David Kettler <dkettler at tcbi.com> wrote:

              From: David Kettler <dkettler at tcbi.com>
              Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-LBC group question
              To: ehusmann53 at yahoo.com
              Cc: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>, edwardbarnard at prodigy.net
              Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 9:52 PM

I recall when I was a kid collecting STP stickers at gas stations.
I always understood it to be Scientifically Tested Products.

Dave Kettler

At Tuesday, 30 September 2008, Ernest Husmann <ehusmann53 at yahoo.com> 
wrote:

>Ed:
> 
>From STP's web page: STP = Scientifically Treated Petroleum--- On 
Tue, 9/30/08, EDWARD BARNARD <edwardbarnard at prodigy.net> wrote:
>From: EDWARD BARNARD <edwardbarnard at prodigy.net>Subject: [Fot] Non-
LBC group questionTo: "FOT" <fot at autox.team.net>Date: Tuesday,
September 
30, 2008, 11:06 AM
>
>Lister's: I'm writing a magazine article about Indy roadsters
(Kurtis',
Novi', etc) and am examining the Studebaker/Packard powered cars.
In 1963 Studebaker purchased from three gentlemen a little known 
company named Chemical Compounds, which had an oil additive product 
they were selling from the trunks of their cars. Studebaker gave 
Andy Granatelli, then head engineer and chief test driver for Studebaker 
the position of CEO of the newly acquired company which he then renamed 
STP. Now my question...does anyone know for certain the meaning of 
STP? I am getting mixed answers from The Racing History Group. Most 
say it stands for Specially Treated Petroleum, while a few are saying 
it stands for Studebaker Test Products. Do any of the FOTers know 
the "true" side of the story? 
>BTW, later I will relate this past Saturday spent with three great 
guys, Johnny Rutherford, Lloyd Ruby,  and Jim McElreath, at a car 
show we had. 
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