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Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>
From: Mike <mikesmuseum@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 11:56:35 -0800 (PST)
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Isn't the lead for the clock light missing in some versions of the diagram?=
=0A=0A=0AMike=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Arch Boston=
 <arch.boston@twc.com>=0ATo: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America =
<zmagnette@autox.team.net> =0ASent: Friday, December 6, 2013 11:33 AM=0ASub=
ject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens=0A =0A=0A=0AJohn, I h=
ad forgotten the wiper motor error. =A0There were some other omissions that=
 I can't remember. =A0 =A0Would be good have "corrected" copy. =A0Mine is 1=
1x17 and is a good workable size for me. =A0I had one made that was a good =
3 or 4 times as big. =A0It proved to be too big to work with easily. Arch=
=0A=0ASent from my iPad=0A=0AOn Dec 6, 2013, at 12:51 PM, John Perkins <wre=
nch@attglobal.net> wrote:=0A=0A=0ARick and Allen:=0A>=A0=A0=A0 As I'm sitti=
ng in hotel rooms, I could reproduce the wiring=0A      diagram in Visio an=
d color the wires in as correct a color as=0A      Visio will allow.=A0 The=
n output it as a PDF file that anyone could=0A      print on either 8.5 by =
11 or 11 by 17 paper.=A0 We could even use=0A      this to fix the problem =
with the wiper motor wiring that is in the=0A      factory shop manual.=0A>=
=A0=A0=A0 Perkins=0A>=0A>On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM, Richard Greenberg wrote:=0A=
>=0A>Allen et al.,=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Regarding (1): =A0I would be happy to scan=
 the wiring diagrams from the shop manual. =A0My scanner is a cheap hp prin=
ter, but it could produce a workable digital image. =A0Then anyone could pr=
int and laminate their own from the digital file. =A0=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>If you =
want an artistic version, suitable for framing, you might want to use a bet=
ter scanner though.=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Let me know if you want a digital scan.=
=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>--Rick=0A>>=0A>>On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Allen Bachelder=
 wrote:=0A>>=0A>>In a recent phone conversation with one of our own, two co=
ncerns arose which I promised to address about a week ago. =A0I apologize f=
or the delay, but my past week has been memorable for its interruptions. =
=A0 =0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Two questions:=0A>>>1.) =A0Is there somebody in our n=
oble band who either could or would be interested in making up enlarged wir=
ing diagrams for the Magnette. I know there are at least four of them, and =
maybe some choices would have to be made, but did somebody volunteer that t=
hey could provide an 11 X 17 wiring diagram copy either laminated or suitab=
le for lamination? If you are not such a person but have access to equipmen=
t that could produce same, for a PRICE of course, I can guaranty you sales =
of two of these from the get-go. =A0I know we discussed this at some time b=
ut cannot recall how we left it.=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>>2.) We also focused on=
 a windscreen thread a year or two ago, and somebody found that Pilkington =
(?name?) had a US distribution center (somewhere in Ohio?) from which we mi=
ght be able to expect a supply of new windscreens. =A0Is there a follow-up =
story here? There are those of us who either need one or would buy one as a=
 spare should they become available. =A0Once again, any new information abo=
ut this would certainly be welcome. =A0I know the nightmare Steve Hanegan w=
ent through to land a shipment of windscreens and rear Varitone glasses her=
e in the US of A. =A0I suspect a good many of those of us of the Varitone p=
ersuasion would be cheered to find a stash of these bits available in North=
 America, but I wouldn't wish this task on Steve again for anything. =A0So.=
.. can anybody report anything new on this concern?=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=0AMany th=
anks to anybody who can contribute to this conversation! =0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=
Holiday Cheers,=0A>>>Allen=0A>>>=0A>>>*************************************=
***************************Allen & Florrie Bachelder =A0 =A0 =A0 =3Diii=3D<=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Co=
urier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Isn't the=
 lead for the clock light missing in some versions of the diagram?<br><div>=
<span></span></div><div>Mike<br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family: Courier =
New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style=
=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Gr=
ande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1">  <fo=
nt face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</s=
pan></b> Arch Boston &lt;arch.boston@twc.com&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font=
-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> List for the Z Magnette Group - North Americ=
a &lt;zmagnette@autox.team.net&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold=
;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, December 6, 2013 11:33 AM<br> <b><span style=3D=
"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams an=
d
 windscreens<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br><div id=
=3D"yiv9075429271"><div><div>John, I had forgotten the wiper motor error. &=
nbsp;There were some other omissions that I can't remember. &nbsp; &nbsp;Wo=
uld be good have "corrected" copy. &nbsp;Mine is 11x17 and is a good workab=
le size for me. &nbsp;I had one made that was a good 3 or 4 times as big. &=
nbsp;It proved to be too big to work with easily. Arch<br><br>Sent from my =
iPad</div><div><br>On Dec 6, 2013, at 12:51 PM, John Perkins &lt;<a rel=3D"=
nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:wrench@attglobal.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D=
"mailto:wrench@attglobal.net";>wrench@attglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></=
div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>=0A  =0A    =0A  =0A  =0A    =
<div class=3D"yiv9075429271moz-cite-prefix">Rick and Allen:<br>=0A      &nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As I'm sitting in hotel rooms, I could reproduce the wiring=
=0A      diagram in Visio and color the wires in as correct a color as=0A  =
    Visio will allow.&nbsp; Then output it as a PDF file that anyone could=
=0A      print on either 8.5 by 11 or 11 by 17 paper.&nbsp; We could even u=
se=0A      this to fix the problem with the wiper motor wiring that is in t=
he=0A      factory shop manual.<br>=0A      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Perkins<br>=
=0A      <br>=0A      On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM, Richard Greenberg wrote:<br>=
=0A    </div>=0A    <blockquote type=3D"cite">=0A      <div>Allen et al.,</=
div>=0A      <div><br>=0A      </div>=0A      <div>Regarding (1): &nbsp;I w=
ould be happy to scan the wiring diagrams=0A        from the shop manual. &=
nbsp;My scanner is a cheap hp printer, but it=0A        could produce a wor=
kable digital image. &nbsp;Then anyone could print=0A        and laminate t=
heir own from the digital file. &nbsp;</div>=0A      <div><br>=0A      </di=
v>=0A      <div>If you want an artistic version, suitable for framing, you=
=0A        might want to use a better scanner though.</div>=0A      <div><b=
r>=0A      </div>=0A      <div>Let me know if you want a digital scan.</div=
>=0A      <div><br>=0A      </div>=0A      <div>--Rick</div>=0A      <br>=
=0A      <div>=0A        <div>On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Allen Bachelder =
wrote:</div>=0A        <br class=3D"yiv9075429271Apple-interchange-newline"=
>=0A        <blockquote type=3D"cite">=0A          <div style=3D"word-wrap:=
break-word;">In a recent phone=0A            conversation with one of our o=
wn, two concerns arose which I=0A            promised to address about a we=
ek ago. &nbsp;I apologize for the=0A            delay, but my past week has=
 been memorable for its=0A            interruptions. &nbsp;=0A            <=
div><br>=0A            </div>=0A            <div>Two questions:</div>=0A   =
         <blockquote class=3D"yiv9075429271webkit-indent-blockquote" style=
=3D"=0Amargin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px;">=0A              <div>1.=
) &nbsp;Is there somebody in our noble band who either=0A                co=
uld or would be interested in making up enlarged=0A                wiring d=
iagrams for the Magnette. I know there are at=0A                least four =
of them, and maybe some choices would have to=0A                be made, bu=
t did somebody volunteer that they could=0A                provide an 11 X =
17 wiring diagram copy either laminated=0A                or suitable for l=
amination? If you are not such a person=0A                but have access t=
o equipment that could produce same,=0A                for a PRICE of cours=
e, I can guaranty you sales of two=0A                of these from the get-=
go. &nbsp;I know we discussed this at=0A                some time but canno=
t recall how we left it.</div>=0A              <div><br>=0A              </=
div>=0A              <div>2.) We also focused on a windscreen thread a year=
 or=0A                two ago, and somebody found that Pilkington (?name?) =
had=0A                a US distribution center (somewhere in Ohio?) from wh=
ich=0A                we might be able to expect a supply of new windscreen=
s.=0A                &nbsp;Is there a follow-up story here? There are those=
 of us=0A                who either need one or would buy one as a spare sh=
ould=0A                they become available. &nbsp;Once again, any new inf=
ormation=0A                about this would certainly be welcome. &nbsp;I k=
now the=0A                nightmare Steve Hanegan went through to land a sh=
ipment=0A                of windscreens and rear Varitone glasses here in t=
he US=0A                of A. &nbsp;I suspect a good many of those of us of=
 the=0A                Varitone persuasion would be cheered to find a stash=
 of=0A                these bits available in North America, but I wouldn't=
=0A                wish this task on Steve again for anything. &nbsp;So... =
can=0A                anybody report anything new on this concern?</div>=0A=
              <div><br>=0A              </div>=0A            </blockquote>=
=0A            Many thanks to anybody who can contribute to this=0A        =
    conversation!=0A            <div><br>=0A            </div>=0A          =
  <div>Holiday Cheers,</div>=0A            <div>Allen<br>=0A              <=
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