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from [Wayne & Isabel Hardy] [Permanent Link][Original]
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Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Stub stacks <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>
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Properly shaped inlet pipes smooth out the flow and encourage increased =
flow of air into the carb mouth. More air means you can run richer and =
that is more fuel air mix which is more bang in the motor. The APT =
designed ones work, (according to flow meters) and increase air flow =
into the inlet hole. Smooth tapered inlets are the way to go.Take it =
from someone who spent 20 years measuring flows of gases through a pipe =
for a living.

Wombat

From: Richard Greenberg=20
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:33 AM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America=20
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Stub stacks

What is a stub stack? Would it allow for a filter that lies closer to =
the engine than a regular pancake filter?=20

On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Allen Bachelder wrote:


  I've always just used the item #54 from the Moss catalog: =
http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=3D28996#top=
  Are these from APT or Rimmer better?=20

  Always anxious to learn...
  Allen

  ****************************************************************=20
  Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
  Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
  '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
  North Street, MI 48049, USA
  http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs=20
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  On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:10 AM, monster@caverock.net.nz wrote:


    Hi everyone,

    I'd like to get a pair of 1.5" H4 stub stacks and I've tried =
emailing Steve Ash several times to see if he would make some more, but =
I haven't got an answer from him.

    So... from a light scour of the internet there appears to be two =
types available at a reasonable cost:
    $32.50 ea - =
http://www.aptfast.com/ShowItem/101221%20Billet%20Alloy%20Stub%20Stack%20=
SU%20HS4.aspx
    $57 pair - http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-RL1396ALT

    I've excluded the K&N ones as they are very rough, by all accounts.
    Are there any others that people would recommend?

    They're going to fit inside K&N filters that are 2 1/8" thick.

    regards,
    --=20
    Robert (in NZ)
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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Properly shaped inlet pipes smooth out the flow and =
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