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To: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <aljlthomson@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?
From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:28:30 -0800
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
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As mentioned, two things, I'm yet to try. I have a few spare hubs which I
can try as well as some spare wheels I can put on, but this bloody rain
we've been having here in California is more than I can handle.  The car
has been recently commissioned with all new poly bushes. I do my own
repairs and maintenance on the car.
The vibration starts to occur on slight left turns and continues as I keep
turning. It can be felt through the steering wheel. The Stag btw has power
steering.



Sujit

On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 9:50=E2=80=AFAM Alex & Janet Thomson <
aljlthomson@charter.net> wrote:

> Sujit =E2=80=93 Sorry for getting off topic and rambling. Here=E2=80=99s =
a question or
> two. You mentioned that the vibration comes from the front left wheel
> during left turns. Since the vibration comes through the steering, I woul=
d
> suggest that both front wheels could be suspect. Look for any interferenc=
e
> of tires with body or suspension parts. Does the vibration occur at sligh=
t
> steering angles or only when steering sharp left? Don=E2=80=99t discount =
things
> like a cracked wheel or more likely, a bad tire. I have heard first hand
> accounts that even new tires can be defective.
>
>
>
> Alex Thomson
>
>
>
> *From:* Sujit Roy [mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:33 AM
> *To:* Alex & Janet Thomson
> *Cc:* Don Hiscock; DAVID MASSEY; triumphs@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front
> wheel bearing?
>
>
>
> The rotor has been checked for run out. Only thing left is the bearing an=
d
> wheel. The bearing is easy to change, but so far the replies don't answer
> the original question.
>
> Sujit
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:15=E2=80=AFAM Alex & Janet Thomson <
> aljlthomson@charter.net> wrote:
>
> I didn=E2=80=99t know that MGs used a spacer sleeve and shims for adjustm=
ent. How
> fun would that be when doing wheel bearing service on all of my farm
> equipment. Let=E2=80=99s see =E2=80=93 8 tractors, 7 four-wheel hay wagon=
s, 3 balers, four
> hay rakes, and the list goes on=E2=80=A6
>
>
>
> Alex Thomson
>
> =E2=80=9973 TR6
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Hiscock [mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2023 8:40 AM
> *To:* DAVID MASSEY
> *Cc:* aljlthomson@charter.net; triumphs@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front
> wheel bearing?
>
>
>
> Yeah, I know...
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:35 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
>
> Still, 101???  Not 100?  Nobody lists a torque setting to +/- 1%
> Especially back in the day.  With the old torsion-beam torque wrenches wi=
th
> a linear scale you're lucky to get +/- 5 lb-ft.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
> To: Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.net>
> Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 7:28 pm
> Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front
> wheel bearing?
>
> It's not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the el=
l
> count.  It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps being more
> familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see 101.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex & Janet Thomson <
> aljlthomson@charter.net> wrote:
>
> Wow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I=E2=80=99ve never done =
any work
> on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a pre-load of 101 ft.-lbs. for f=
ront wheel
> bearings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, from a Farmall H to a Deere
> 4250, use the common specification of =E2=80=9Chand tighten to a slight d=
rag, and
> then back off to the nearest castellation=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I=
 have done on all
> of our cars and trucks over the years and it seems to work.
>
>
>
> Can someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just a misprint?
>
>
>
> Alex Thomson
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *=
Don
> Hiscock
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM
> *To:* Philip Ethier
> *Cc:* Triumphs
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front
> wheel bearing?
>
>
>
> And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.  I've not
> quite gotten over that episode yet,  Yes, don't fool around with wheel
> bearings!
>
>
>
> The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was more
> used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's non-preloaded bearings.  He read
> this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 =
lb=C2=B7ft.
> Yikes.
>
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png
>
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jp=
g
>
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jp=
g
>
>
>
> This happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy's Garage as it turne=
d
> out.  And although Mark and Co. didn't do the work that led to the wheel
> coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into their shop tha=
t
> afternoon while I flew home.
>
>
>
> So listen to the voice of two of us with scary experiences.  Take care
> with wheel bearings.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier <pethier7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Don't mess with wheel bearings.  Get it checked out.  I lost a wheel on m=
y
> TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>=
 wrote:
>
> I have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like bottom
> ball joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration,
> through the steering wheel,  from the left front wheel only when I'm
> turning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly bushes.
>
> There is no vibration going straight or when turning right.
>
> I plan to swap the wheel with my spare,  but can a bad bearing cause thes=
e
> symptoms?
>
> The hub rotates smoothly and there is no noise.
>
>
>
> The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub
> bearings are tapered.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sujit
>
>
>
> --
>
> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
>
>
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>
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> --
>
> Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA
>
> 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue
>
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>
> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
>
>
> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>


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Sujit Roy
Cupertino, California

https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/

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<div dir=3D"ltr">As mentioned, two things, I&#39;m yet to try.=20

I have a few spare hubs which=C2=A0I can try as well as some spare wheels I=
 can put on, but this bloody rain we&#39;ve been having here in California =
is more than I can handle.=C2=A0 The car has been recently=C2=A0commissione=
d with all new poly bushes. I do my own repairs and maintenance on the car.=
<div>The vibration starts to occur on slight left turns and continues as I =
keep turning. It can be felt through the steering=C2=A0wheel. The Stag btw =
has power steering.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div=
><div>Sujit</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 9:50=E2=80=AFAM Alex &amp; Janet T=
homson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net";>aljlthomson@charter.n=
et</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
"><div class=3D"msg-4742986017356673705"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"=
m_-4742986017356673705WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Sujit =E2=
=80=93 Sorry for getting off topic and rambling. Here=E2=80=99s a question =
or two. You mentioned that the vibration comes from the front left wheel du=
ring left turns. Since the vibration comes through the steering, I would su=
ggest that both front wheels could be suspect. Look for any interference of=
 tires with body or suspension parts. Does the vibration occur at slight st=
eering angles or only when steering sharp left? Don=E2=80=99t discount thin=
gs like a cracked wheel or more likely, a bad tire. I have heard first hand=
 accounts that even new tires can be defective.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,=
73,125)">Alex Thomson <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Sujit=
 Roy [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">tri=
umphstag@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:33 A=
M<br><b>To:</b> Alex &amp; Janet Thomson<br><b>Cc:</b> Don Hiscock; DAVID M=
ASSEY; <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triumph=
s@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I&#39;m ge=
tting indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The=
=C2=A0rotor has been checked for run out. Only thing left is the bearing an=
d wheel. The bearing is easy to change, but so far the replies=C2=A0don&#39=
;t=C2=A0answer the original question.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">Sujit<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></p></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:15=E2=80=AFAM Alex=
 &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><=
blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;bo=
rder-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.=
8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I didn=E2=
=80=99t know that MGs used a spacer sleeve and shims for adjustment. How fu=
n would that be when doing wheel bearing service on all of my farm equipmen=
t. Let=E2=80=99s see =E2=80=93 8 tractors, 7 four-wheel hay wagons, 3 baler=
s, four hay rakes, and the list goes on=E2=80=A6</span><u></u><u></u></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31=
,73,125)">Alex Thomson</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
=E2=80=9973 TR6</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0=
</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size=
:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Don Hiscock=
 [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">don.his=
cock@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 28, 2023 8:40 AM<br>=
<b>To:</b> DAVID MASSEY<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter=
.net" target=3D"_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:triu=
mphs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Su=
bject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I&#39;m getting indicative of a bad fro=
nt wheel bearing?</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u><=
/u><u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yeah, I know...<u></u><u></u=
></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:35 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; target=3D"_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&=
gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;bord=
er-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">S=
till, 101???=C2=A0 Not 100?=C2=A0 Nobody lists a torque setting to +/- 1%=
=C2=A0 Especially back in the day.=C2=A0 With the old torsion-beam torque w=
renches with a linear scale you&#39;re lucky to get +/- 5 lb-ft.</span><u><=
/u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:=
Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></=
div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.=
5pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Dave </span><u></=
u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:A=
rial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=
=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"m=
argin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Don Hiscock=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">don.hiscock=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>To: Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:al=
jlthomson@charter.net" target=3D"_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>&gt;<br=
>Cc: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 7:28 pm<br>S=
ubject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I&#39;m getting indicative of a bad front =
wheel bearing?</span><u></u><u></u></p><div id=3D"m_-4742986017356673705m_1=
52652332295167395m_25085995673554113yiv5715629523"><div><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;colo=
r:black">It&#39;s not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero=
 and the ell count.=C2=A0 It&#39;s mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or =
perhaps being more familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him t=
o see 101.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:bla=
ck">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><div id=3D"m_-4742986017356673705m_15265=
2332295167395m_25085995673554113yiv5715629523yqt74756"><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;;color:black">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex &amp; Janet Th=
omson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net"; target=3D"_blank">aljl=
thomson@charter.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquot=
e style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left=
:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8p=
t"><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt=
;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Wow! That definitely=
 is a car with a broken leg! I=E2=80=99ve never done any work on an MG but =
I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a pre-load of 101 ft.-lbs. for front wheel bear=
ings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250,=
 use the common specification of =E2=80=9Chand tighten to a slight drag, an=
d then back off to the nearest castellation=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I=
 have done on all of our cars and trucks over the years and it seems to wor=
k.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=
=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Ca=
n someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just a misprint?</span><u=
></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u>=
</u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Alex Thomson</spa=
n><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span=
><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">From:</spa=
n></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot=
;;color:black"> Triumphs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.t=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behal=
f Of </b>Don Hiscock<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM<br><=
b>To:</b> Philip Ethier<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] =
Is this symptom I&#39;m getting indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?</s=
pan><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</sp=
an><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">A=
nd I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.=C2=A0 I&#39;v=
e not quite gotten over that episode yet,=C2=A0 Yes, don&#39;t fool around =
with wheel bearings!</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episo=
de was a restorer who was more used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3&#39;s=
 non-preloaded bearings.=C2=A0 He read this part of the Red Book service in=
structions as 101 lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 lb=C2=B7ft.=C2=A0 Yikes.</span><u></u>=
<u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><a href=3D=
"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-=
7mHq3MK.png</a></span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;;color:black"><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0=
/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com=
/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg</a></span><u></u><u></u></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10p=
t;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><a href=3D"https://=
photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg" target=
=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBT=
PGjg-X3.jpg</a></span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;;color:black">This happened in western Ohio, not too far fro=
m Macy&#39;s Garage as it turned out.=C2=A0 And although Mark and Co. didn&=
#39;t do the work that led to the wheel coming off, they know my car and we=
re able to take it into their shop that afternoon while I flew home.</span>=
<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=
=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;col=
or:black">So listen to the voice of two of us with scary experiences.=C2=A0=
 Take care with wheel bearings.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><d=
iv><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fami=
ly:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 P=
M Philip Ethier &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pethier7@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank"=
>pethier7@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><blo=
ckquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;borde=
r-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5p=
t 4.8pt"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10p=
t;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Don&#39;t mess with=
=C2=A0wheel bearings.=C2=A0 Get it checked out.=C2=A0 I lost a wheel on my =
TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></di=
v><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-=
family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:=
35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p></=
div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bot=
tom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;mar=
gin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I have a S=
tag and have checked and changed various components like bottom ball joint =
and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration, through the ste=
ering=C2=A0wheel,=C2=A0 from the left front wheel only when I&#39;m turning=
 left. The car had been fitted with all new poly bushes.</span><u></u><u></=
u></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;=
font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">There is no vibration=
 going straight or when turning right.=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div>=
</div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-f=
amily:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I plan to swap the wheel wi=
th my spare,=C2=A0 but can a bad bearing cause these symptoms?</span><u></u=
><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">The hub r=
otates smoothly and there is no noise.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div>=
<div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:=
Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></=
div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">The TR6 uses a similar =
vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub bearings=C2=A0are tapered.</span><=
u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=
=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;col=
or:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:black">Sujit=C2=A0<br clear=3D"all"></span><u></u><u></u></p><=
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