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It's not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the ell
count. It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps being more
familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see 101.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex & Janet Thomson <
aljlthomson@charter.net> wrote:
> Wow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I=E2=80=99ve never done =
any work
> on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a pre-load of 101 ft.-lbs. for f=
ront wheel
> bearings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, from a Farmall H to a Deere
> 4250, use the common specification of =E2=80=9Chand tighten to a slight d=
rag, and
> then back off to the nearest castellation=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I=
have done on all
> of our cars and trucks over the years and it seems to work.
>
>
>
> Can someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just a misprint?
>
>
>
> Alex Thomson
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *=
Don
> Hiscock
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM
> *To:* Philip Ethier
> *Cc:* Triumphs
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front
> wheel bearing?
>
>
>
> And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014. I've not
> quite gotten over that episode yet, Yes, don't fool around with wheel
> bearings!
>
>
>
> The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was more
> used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's non-preloaded bearings. He read
> this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 =
lb=C2=B7ft.
> Yikes.
>
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png
>
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jp=
g
>
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jp=
g
>
>
>
> This happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy's Garage as it turne=
d
> out. And although Mark and Co. didn't do the work that led to the wheel
> coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into their shop tha=
t
> afternoon while I flew home.
>
>
>
> So listen to the voice of two of us with scary experiences. Take care
> with wheel bearings.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier <pethier7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Don't mess with wheel bearings. Get it checked out. I lost a wheel on m=
y
> TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>=
wrote:
>
> I have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like bottom
> ball joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration,
> through the steering wheel, from the left front wheel only when I'm
> turning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly bushes.
>
> There is no vibration going straight or when turning right.
>
> I plan to swap the wheel with my spare, but can a bad bearing cause thes=
e
> symptoms?
>
> The hub rotates smoothly and there is no noise.
>
>
>
> The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub
> bearings are tapered.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sujit
>
>
>
> --
>
> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
>
>
> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>
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>
> 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">It&=
#39;s not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the ell=
count.=C2=A0 It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps bein=
g more familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see 101.</=
div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_at=
tr">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex & Janet Thomson <<a href=3D=
"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net";>aljlthomson@charter.net</a>> wrote:<br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"msg20=
70731444121065553"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"m_2070731444121065553W=
ordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quo=
t;sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Wow! That definitely is a car with=
a broken leg! I=E2=80=99ve never done any work on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve n=
ever heard of a pre-load of 101 ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings. All of o=
ur farm tractors, about 10, from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the commo=
n specification of =E2=80=9Chand tighten to a slight drag, and then back of=
f to the nearest castellation=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I have done on =
all of our cars and trucks over the years and it seems to work.<u></u><u></=
u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quo=
t;sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,"sans-serif&quo=
t;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Can someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is tha=
t just a misprint?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-family:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Alex Thomson<u></u><=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,=
"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma=
,"sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font=
-family:Tahoma,"sans-serif""> Triumphs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:=
triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.t=
eam.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Don Hiscock<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, Februa=
ry 27, 2023 7:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> Philip Ethier<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br><=
b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad=
front wheel bearing?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">And I lost a front wheel=
on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.=C2=A0 I've not quite gotten over=
that episode yet,=C2=A0 Yes, don't fool around with wheel bearings!<u>=
</u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode=
was a restorer who was more used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's n=
on-preloaded bearings.=C2=A0 He read this part of the Red Book service inst=
ructions as 101 lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 lb=C2=B7ft.=C2=A0 Yikes.<u></u><u></u></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/p=
hotos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png" target=3D"_blank">https://photo=
s.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png</a><u></u><u></u>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com=
/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https:/=
/photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg</a><u><=
/u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://photos.s=
mugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg" target=3D"_blan=
k">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.j=
pg</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">This happened in western Ohio, not=
too far from Macy's Garage as it turned out.=C2=A0 And although Mark a=
nd Co. didn't do the work that led to the wheel coming off, they know m=
y car and were able to take it into their shop that afternoon while I flew =
home.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So listen to the voice of two of us=
with scary experiences.=C2=A0 Take care with wheel bearings.<u></u><u></u>=
</p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:pethier7@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">pethier7@gmail.com</a>&=
gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;bord=
er-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Don't mess with=C2=A0wheel bearings.=C2=A0 Get it checke=
d out.=C2=A0 I lost a wheel on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005.=
<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit =
Roy <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">triumphs=
tag@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"bo=
rder-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have a Stag and have checked and changed vari=
ous components like bottom ball joint and top shock mount, but am still exp=
eriencing a vibration, through the steering=C2=A0wheel,=C2=A0 from the left=
front wheel only when I'm turning left. The car had been fitted with a=
ll new poly bushes.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">There is n=
o vibration going straight or when turning right.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I plan to swap the wheel with my spare,=C2=
=A0 but can a bad bearing cause these symptoms?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The hub rotates smoothly and there is no noise.<u><=
/u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup a=
s the Stag. The hub bearings=C2=A0are tapered.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sujit=C2=A0=
<br clear=3D"all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sujit Roy<br>Cupertino, California<u></u><u></u>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><br><a h=
ref=3D"https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/"; target=3D"_blank">https://tr=
iumphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><=
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