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Re: [TR] [6pack] Carbon on top of pistons - engine experts please

To: <MMoore8425@aol.com>, <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Carbon on top of pistons - engine experts please
From: "Peter Ryner" <pryner@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 15:26:31 -0400
I used to be a jet engine mechanic in the AF.  We had water injection
systems on both the KC-135 tanker and B-52 bomber.  Both engines had spray
bars in the inlet to provide the water.  It worked by making the air more
dense, giving better performance.  The trick is that it has to be sprayed in
small dropletts, not poured in.  Also had to use distilled water to prevent
build up of deposits which eventually reduce flow.  Worked very well in most
cases, especially on those very hot days on Guam with a full load.
Pete

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Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Carbon on top of pistons - engine experts
please help!


In a message dated 5/6/2008 11:08:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
tr3driver@ca.rr.com writes:

So did  some aircraft.  There was also an add-on water injection  system
available from Edelbrock in the 70s, to help high compression car  engines
run on lower octane fuel.



One of my friends years ago was a flight engineer for AA. That was when
they
had the "Flagship Planes". The DC6 co-pilots job was to stick a small
American flag outside and above his window both on landing and takeoff.
The paying public was always to see an American flag flying over the  DC6
when it arrived and  departed the gate.
My friend was involved in water injection experiments AA were  doing to get
more power from the airplane-I imagine to compete with  TWA's Constellation.
One morning they were taking off  to take the very first  flight test data.
Fortunately,they were flying from  a little used  field (except for
maintenance).
The plan was to take off, and he was to, on command, start adding
increasing
amounts of water injection into all four engines. Something bad  happened,
and as they were climbing out, there was a huge misunderstanding and  he
added
full water injection into all four engines, all of which immediately
stopped!

The co-pilot yelled  to the pilot  "What do you want to do  now chief?"

The very busy pilot yelled back "Break out the flag, we're about to  land!"

(My friend said the pilot declared a "Mayday", made a very  tight 180 and
landed downwind on the runway, No damage, no  injuries.)

Mike Moore
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