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RE: TR 256

To: John Middlesworth <jape@email.unc.edu>
Subject: RE: TR 256
From: "Brad Kahler" <brad.kahler@141.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:13:08 -0600
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
References: <199902041703.MAA27323@mailserv0.isis.unc.edu>
So it would be best of a TR250 front inner clip was used.  That would make 
sense.  I'm sure Henry Frye has one or two of those laying around!


> The six-cylinder engine needed some additional clearance on the right, so
> the right wheel arch panel is different between the 4A and 250.
> 
> John Middlesworth
> 
> On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Brad Kahler wrote:
> 
> > 
> > > That's correct.  The inner fenders, valance, etc are different and
> > > must be changed.  By the way, just out of curiosity,  what was the
> > > difference, if any, between the TR4A and TR250 front sheetmetal? 
> > 
> > None other than the painted stripe on the fender and bonnet.  The grille
> > was changed slightly.  Those are the only differences that I know about.
> >  I have a set of TR250 front fenders and also a set from a TR4 and there
> > are no differences that I can detect. 
> > 
> > Oh yea, the lower valance from the TR250 had a hole in it to provide
> > more cooling air to the radiator.  The upper valance was the same.
> > 
> >  
> > >  ----------
> > >  From:  Brad Kahler [SMTP:brad.kahler@141.com]
> > >  Sent:  Thursday, February 04, 1999 10:43 AM
> > >  To:  ghutmacher@stanleyworks.com
> > >  Cc:  triumphs@autox.team.net
> > >  Subject:  RE: TR 256
> > > 
> > >  Greg,
> > > 
> > >  The only difference between the TR250 and the TR4/4A was in the
> > > frame 
> > >  mounting for the 6 cylinder engine.  Other than that the body panels
> > >  are
> > > all 
> > >  the same.
> > > 
> > >  So that should clear up the 6 cylinder clearance issue.  If I'm not
> > > mistaken 
> > >  he will have to change the entire front clip and not just the
> > > fenders.  
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  > 
> > >  > Just off the top of my head, I would think it would be a
> > > straightforward
> > >  > swap.  The TR250, first off, already had the TR6 engine, so
> > > clearance
> > >  > shouldn't be an issue.  I would not use TR4 panels just in case
> > > there may
> > >  > have been a slight change in sheetmetal between the TR4 and the
> > > 250 to
> > >  > accommodate the 6 cylinder engine.  My understanding from reading
> > > my
> > >  > TR250/6 history is that Karmann was required to use the existing
> > > TR250
> > >  > inner body tub and chassis when he designed the TR6.  The only
> > > changes to
> > >  > sheetmetal he was allowed was the front clip and rear clip.
> > > Therefore, I
> > >  > would guess that the TR250 front clip would attach perfectly to
> > > the TR6
> > >  > tub and frame. Anybody know anything different?  That car would
> > > certainly
> > >  > be an attention getter at Triumph meets.  Whatever else you can
> > > say about
> > >  > it, it would be unique.  :-)
> > >  > 
> > >  >  ----------
> > >  >  From:  Bud_Rolofson@nps.gov [SMTP:Bud_Rolofson@nps.gov]
> > >  >  Sent:  Thursday, February 04, 1999 8:28 AM
> > >  >  To:  triumphs@autox.team.net
> > >  >  Subject:  TR 256
> > >  > 
> > >  > 
> > >  >  I'd like to know if anyone out there has done something like
> > > this.  
> > >  > 
> > >  >  I've been thinking about putting the front clip from a TR4/250
> > > onto
> > >  > a TR6 frame.
> > >  >   It would be a TR6 from the firewall back and a TR4/250 from the
> > >  > doors and
> > >  >  firewall forward.  Anyone ever seen this done or have any ideas
> > > on
> > >  > what
> > >  >  modifications would be needed or considerations that I should
> > > look
> > >  > at?  What
> > >  >  measurements should I make to take into account things like, the
> > >  > TR4/250 bonnet
> > >  >  has a curve to it versus the flatter TR6 bonnet, and might not
> > > fit
> > >  > over the long
> > >  >  6 cylinder engine?  (Would a small V8 be a better fit for the
> > >  > TR4/250 bonnet?)
> > >  > 
> > >  >   Comments? Suggestions (sorry, my wife has already claimed the
> > > "have your
> > >  > head
> > >  >  examined" suggestion)? Ideas? Experiences?
> > >  > 
> > >  >  My apologies to any that might be offended by my lack of purism,
> > > but I
> > >  > really
> > >  >  like the looks of the front of the TR4/250 and the rear of the
> > > TR6
> > >  > and I figure
> > >  >  I'd be salvaging two TRs at once.
> > >  > 
> > >  >  Thanks in advance
> > >  >  Bud 71TR6 CC57365
> > >  >         71TR6 CC65446 (into a TR256 ?)
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  Brad  (Lincoln Nebraska 402-464-1502)
> > >  My Web Site Http://www.141.com/triumphs (updated 12/3/98)
> > > 
> > >  1964 Spitfire4 BFC25720L -- 1973 Spitfire 1500 FM3353U
> > >  1962 TR4 CT288L          -- 1965 TR4 CT38888LO parts car?
> > >  1959 TR3A TS41311L       -- 1959 TR3A TS53523L parts car
> > >  1951 Dodge Truck B-3-B-108
> > 
> > 
> > Brad  (Lincoln Nebraska 402-464-1502)
> > My Web Site Http://www.141.com/triumphs (updated 12/3/98)
> > 
> > 1964 Spitfire4 BFC25720L -- 1973 Spitfire 1500 FM3353U
> > 1962 TR4 CT288L          -- 1965 TR4 CT38888LO parts car?
> > 1959 TR3A TS41311L       -- 1959 TR3A TS53523L parts car
> > 1951 Dodge Truck B-3-B-108
> > 
> 


Brad  (Lincoln Nebraska 402-464-1502)
My Web Site Http://www.141.com/triumphs (updated 12/3/98)

1964 Spitfire4 BFC25720L -- 1973 Spitfire 1500 FM3353U
1962 TR4 CT288L          -- 1965 TR4 CT38888LO parts car?
1959 TR3A TS41311L       -- 1959 TR3A TS53523L parts car
1951 Dodge Truck B-3-B-108

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