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Bypass hose and skirted thermostat (long but definitive)

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Subject: Bypass hose and skirted thermostat (long but definitive)
From: JAMES_S_WALLACE@HP-Canada-om1.om.hp.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:17:33 -0400
     Greetings,
     
     With the recent talk of bypass hoses and cooling problems in cars with 
     skirted thermostats, I thought I'd take the liberty of posting the 
     following technical description from an Australian Triumph club 
     newsletter. Thanks to John Pike for forwarding it to me in the first 
     place, and I hope you don't mind John, if you're still on the list, as 
     I'm posting this in the hopes of benefiting everyone who may still 
     have some doubt about these issues.
     ****************
     "Last newsletter carried an article that recommended the blocking of 
     the radiator bypass system when a skirted thermostat is not available 
     and a non-skirted type has been fitted.
     
     I most definitely do NOT recommend that this action be taken, for the 
     following reasons.
     
     While the radiator bypass serves no useful function when the engine is 
     at normal operating temperature and the thermostat is open;  it serves 
     a vital role when the thermostat is closed.
     
     When a cold engine is started the thermostat is closed and coolant is 
     prevented from circulating through the radiator.  However, under the 
     influence of the water pump coolant does circulate through the block 
     and the head via the bypass hose, ensuring an EVEN distribution of the 
     generated heat throughout the engine.
     
     As the coolant must pass the thermostat on its way to the bypass 
     outlet the thermostat heats up at the same speed as the coolant so 
     when the temperature reaches the specified temperature for the 
     thermostat, the thermostat begins to open, admitting a small amount of 
     cold coolant from the radiator at first, which has the initial effect 
     of lowering the temperature of the coolant in the engine and slowing 
     the rate at which the thermostat opens; this is important to prevent a 
     sudden surge of cold coolant into a hot block and head.
     
     When the coolant temperature in the whole system has stabilised the 
     thermostat will continue to vary as necessary to maintain the correct 
     operating temperature for the engine.
     
     If the thermostat is closed and the bypass blocked, coolant cannot 
     circulate and coolant heating is localised to areas adjacent to the 
     top of the cylinder bores; coolant does not pass by the thermostat and 
     heat only reaches it by conduction.
     
     In this situation several things can happen and none of them are good 
     for the engine.
     
     Since heat cannot be quickly conducted away from the cylinders, hot 
     spots develop.  These can be hot enough to cause local boiling of the 
     coolant. The steam generated forces coolant back through the water 
     pump to the bottom radiator tank and then up and out through the 
     radiator cap and overflow pipe.
     
     The steam forces the water out of the head and then reaches the still 
     closed thermostat which opens immediately, allowing the steam to pass 
     into the cold coolant of the upper hose where it condenses 
     immediately.
     
     The heated coolant which was forced into the lower radiator tank 
     returns to the block and head and passes straight through the now wide 
     open thermostat to the top radiator tank.  The very hot coolant is 
     immediately followed by the remaining cold coolant from the radiator 
     with consequent rapid cooling of the head and block - an excellent 
     recipe for cracking both of these.
     
     Another scenario is that the coolant does not boil, but coolant that 
     is hot enough eventually reaches the thermostat and it begins to open. 
      Coolant begins to flow under the influence of the water pump and, 
     because the rest of the coolant in the head is much hotter than that 
     which first reached the thermostat, the unevenly heated block and head 
     are quickly cooled by the cold water from the radiator, with a similar 
     recipe for disaster as before.
     
     If you are one of the growing number of TR owners unable to find an 
     original type thermostat, I can recommend the following procedure.
     
     Use an off-the-shelf unskirted thermostat with a heat rating as near 
     as possible to the recommended rating of 70 degrees C.  Do not use a 
     thermostat with a rating over 80 C.
     
     It is permissible to reduce the bypass access to a minimum of about 
     3/8 of an inch.  The important thing is to maintain at least some flow 
     during warmip.  It should be pointed out that the skirt on the 
     original type thermostat did not seal off the bypass, but rather just 
     directed coolant flow more towards the top hose outlet. "
     
     and John added:
     
     Hope that helps a bit.  You mentioned that your old Volvo thermostat 
     fitted the TR.  However, the inside diameter of the opening is as 
     critical as the outside.  The original TR thermostat had an outside 
     diameter of 54mm (sorry about the change in units), and an internal 
     opening diameter of 33mm.  Many after market thermostats have an ID of 
     only around 25 mm, and can therefore restrict flow through the system, 
     leading to the inevitable overheating. One of our local TR drivers did 
     some research on the matter, and finally came up with a thermostat 
     which has an OD of 64mm and an ID of 44mm.  It's a very simple matter 
     to grind the OD down to 54 mm and away you go.  I have fitted one of 
     these in my TR, and as I said last night I have no overheating 
     problems at all.  The particular thermostat is made for our local 
     Holden models and for the Nissan Skyline 3 litre.  It's made by Dayco 
     Pacific, part number DT19E-BP, and has an opening temperature of 77 C.
     ***************
     
     This all makes sense to me. I guess the bottom lines are:
     
     1. Don't completely block off bypass hose.
     2. Check the thermostat opening's diameter.
     3. You can make something up that will cool your car properly.
     
     Regards,
     Jim Wallace


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