I agree with you 100%, but since one example would have sufficed, you are
guilty of your own complaint. I left your message attached to "drive" the
point home. Happy Motor(edit)ing!
>
>A week or two ago, I was cleaning up the MG digest, and sent a message
>to the MG list asking folks to put some effort into editing the text they
>include with their replies. Though it shouldn't come as a surprise to me,
>a fair number of folks seemed to have no idea what I was talking about.
>So, I'll explain myself with some examples from the various lists. I won't
>include the one from the triumph list where a digest subscriber sent in two
>or three lines of comment, followed by the *entire* 60,000 chars of the
>digest in his reply.
>
>In the examples below, the line and char counts are probably not absolutely
>exact, but close enough to illustrate my point. And my point is that it
>would be nice if you folks would put some effort into not having unnecessary
>volume being added to the size of the list mailings. Sure, it seems like
>only a dozen or wo people are on the big lists, since they are the only ones
>who submit messages, but the big lists have around 1,000 entires. An extra
>10K of chars per day on each of these lists starts to add up.
>
>One night I shrunk the tigers digest from 85,000 to just under 50,000.
>Person A sent a message. Person B replied, with all of Person A's mail
>included. Person A then responded to that, with all of Person B's message
>included, which of course had the orignal message in it. Then Person B
>replied to A's reply, which included the original message, B's reply, A's
>reply to that and then B's latest reply. And then A chimed in again, etc.
>
>So maybe with some education of the list members, I'll go from spending 15
>hours a week cleaning up "mailbox full" errors to only 14.9!
>
>mjb.
>----
>
>1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
>
>Example 1: (The infamous "Me too" message) 29 lines, 970 chars
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>>*** Resending note of 06/24/96 16:13
>>
>>>"Bruce A. Krobusek" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Was there ever a consensus regarding the SOLers getting together at
>>>> one place and at one time at VTR in Albany? If so, could someone fill
>>>> me in as to the wheres and whens? If not, should we try to set
>>>> something up?
>>
>>To which Ken Streeter replied:
>>
>>>I don't know that anything was decided, but would be looking forward to
>>>this, too!
>>
>>By then *I'll* probably be ready for a break too! I'm just not up for
>>organizing ANYTHING else right now. If someone wants to coordinate something
>>I'll be happy to answer questions about available or convienent locations.
>>
>>So far we have Bruce, Ken, Jamie Palmer, Andy Mace and me. I would guess
>>that Bob Bownes, Mark B, John Lye, and Chris Kantariev would be up for
>>it too. Any others?
>>
>>Rik, chairing this thing is enough to do, Schlierer
>>
>>
>>
>Count me in too.
>
>Ralph Jannelli
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>What *could* have been sent, 3 lines, about 30 chars:
>
>Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:31:36 -0400 (EDT)
>From: rjannelli@uncc.campus.mci.net (Ralph Jannelli)
>Subject: Re: SOLers at VTR
>
>Count me in too, I'll be at VTR.
>
>Ralph Jannelli
>
>
>*** Example 2, 60 lines, 1486 chars:
>
> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:47:36 -0500
> From: tom.wagner@Central.Sun.COM (Tom Wagner - Program Manager)
> Subject: Re: The fancy cursor is available!
>
>Jeffrey:
>
>Is this a program for PC's only or
>will it work on Unix boxes also???
>
>Let me know.
>
>Thanks
>
>Tom Wagner
>
>`67' MGB
>(Various stages of restoration - All
>Paint removed to metal, working on rust
>removal.) Waiting for day to become daily
>vehicle.
>
>`92' Honda Civic LX(Excellent car)
>
>`93' Honda Civic CDX(Moms car)
>
>Sun Microsystems
>Sun Service Division - Program Manager
>Phone: 713-964-7068
>Email: tom.w.wagner@Central.Sun.com
>
>> From mgs-owner@autox.team.net Thu Jun 20 09:39 CDT 1996
>> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:36:15 -0500
>> From: Jeff Fayne <fayne@mcs.com>
>> Mime-Version: 1.0
>> To: "Jason F. Dutt" <simjason@ix.netcom.com>
>> Cc: mgs@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: The fancy cursor is available!
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>
>> Jason F. Dutt wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello, and thanks to all who showed interest and/or offered to
>> > help in making this little creation of mine available.
>> >
>> > You can download the MG Rotating Insignia at:
>> > http://www.team.net/sol or download it directly from FTP at:
>> > ftp://ftp.team.net/sol
>>
>> Actually it's at ftp://ftp.team.net/mgs
>>
>> >
>> > The file name is mglogo.zip. Unzip it into a temporary directory
>> > and read the readme file for installation instructions.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Jay
>>
>> --
>> Jeffrey Fayne - Systems Engineer fayne@mcs.com
>> INX International Ink Co. http://www.inxink.com
>> 1130 Howard St. Elk Grove Village,IL 60007
>> (847)364-7774 x23 (847)364-7825 FAX
>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>What *could* have been sent, maybe 10 lines. I won't get into overly long
>signatures in this message.
>
>
>Jeffrey:
>
>Is this fancy cursor program for PC's only or
>will it work on Unix boxes also???
>
>Let me know.
>
>Thanks
>
>Tom Wagner tom.w.wagner@Central.Sun.com
>
>
>*** Example 3, 45 lines, 1,264 chars.
>
> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 20:33 EST
> From: Bill Georgas <0005419627@mcimail.com>
> Subject: Re: TR6 Tunnel Cover Question
>
>Ken,
>
>I installed one of these a couple of months ago. Much better than
>the disintegrating old piece, but a real trial to install. I believe
>the tab you mention is supposed to be an attachment point under or
>inside of the cover.
>
>Good luck,
>
>Bill
>'72 TR6
>
>
>
>Date: Tue Jun 25, 1996 08:47 am CDT
>Source-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:43:14 -0400
>From: KMNTR6
> EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414
> MBX: KMNTR6@aol.com
>
>TO: triumphs
> EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414
> MBX: triumphs@autox.team.net
>BCC: * Bill Georgas / MCI ID: 541-9627
>Subject: TR6 Tunnel Cover Question
>Message-Id: 11960625134711/0003765414DC4EM
>Source-Msg-Id: <960625094312_142387117@emout13.mail.aol.com>
>U-Sender: owner-triumphs@triumph.cs.utah.edu
>
>Hi All-
>
>I am having the engine of my 1974 TR6 rebuilt, so while it's out (along with
>the interior) I decided to replace the cardboard gearbox and tunnel covers
>with the new "space age plastic" ones.
>
>The question: at the center back of the tunnel there is a metal tab with
>screw to attach the cover at it's highest point? Does this tab go inside, on
>top, or somewhere else on the tunnel cover. Is the tab bent down, up or
>straight out? It looks like it's the tab that a courtesy light could have
>been attached to on earlier TR6s.
>
>Thanks
>Ken Nachman
>Richmond Triumph Register
>1957 TR3
>1974 TR6
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>An example of one way to edit the reply, without losing the original train
>of thought:
>
>
>Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 20:33 EST
>From: Bill Georgas <0005419627@mcimail.com>
>Subject: Re: TR6 Tunnel Cover Question
>
>
>Ken Nachman writes:
>
> I am having the engine of my 1974 TR6 rebuilt, so while it's out (along with
> the interior) I decided to replace the cardboard gearbox and tunnel covers
> with the new "space age plastic" ones.
>
> The question: at the center back of the tunnel there is a metal tab with
> screw to attach the cover at it's highest point? Does this tab go inside, on
> top, or somewhere else on the tunnel cover. Is the tab bent down, up or
> straight out? It looks like it's the tab that a courtesy light could have
> been attached to on earlier TR6s.
>
>Ken,
>
>I installed one of these a couple of months ago. Much better than
>the disintegrating old piece, but a real trial to install. I believe
>the tab you mention is supposed to be an attachment point under or
>inside of the cover.
>
>Good luck,
>
>Bill
>'72 TR6
>
>
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