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Because Ford didn't make a manifold for the right side that didn't shoot s=
traight back into the firewall.
David
On Friday, July 5, 2024 at 07:40:24 PM PDT, Gary Winblad <winbladgary@g=
mail.com> wrote: =20
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I am curious why the Ford manifold neededto be changed?Gary W
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 5, 2024, at 4:53=E2=80=AFPM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote=
:
=EF=BB=BF
The Mk II part number changed to 1236160.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I think this is just =
an updated number but it needs to be explored.
=C2=A0
Anyone have a picture of the Mk II Rt exhaust manifold?
=C2=A0
Ron Fraser
=C2=A0
From: Gary Winblad <winbladgary@gmail.com>=20
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2024 9:29 PM
To: Bill Waite <fordlandia@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: tigers@autox.team.net; Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>; Allan Ballard=
<aballard@ix.netcom.com>; owain.lloyd@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rt exhaust manifold
=C2=A0
Same exact logo.=C2=A0 It was DARCAST, no question.
Gary W.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 5:11=E2=80=AFPM Bill Waite <fordlandia@sbcglobal.net=
> wrote:
In earlier emails on the above subject, Ron Fraser has stated "Norm Miller =
states BARCAST" and "Another believes it is DARCAST =E2=80=93 this is a UK =
Foundry that cast many exhaust manifold for British cars."=C2=A0
=C2=A0
The "another" person Ron Fraser is referring to is me, Bill Waite (Tiger / =
Alpine owner since 1978).=C2=A0 I have uncovered additional information tod=
ay which confirms (100% in my opinion) that the logo on the Tiger's RT Exha=
ust Manifold is DARCAST.
=C2=A0
Ron said "We are looking for photo proof or written proof to seal this case=
."=C2=A0 Hopefully the following information will include enough proof.
=C2=A0
1.=C2=A0 Ends up that from 1915 through 1980 there was a company named "Dar=
tmouth Auto Castings" located in Smethwick (UK).=C2=A0 In later years that =
company operated three (3) separate foundries. It ends up that Darcast was =
not the name of any foundry.=C2=A0 Rather Dartmouth Auto Castings used the =
DART in Dartmouth and the CAST in Castings to create its logo: DarCast.
2.=C2=A0 An October 1951 print advertisement (attached to this message) cle=
arly shows the Darcast logo.=C2=A0 Also attached is another print ad from 1=
965.=C2=A0 =C2=A0That ad lists the type of castings they produced.
=C2=A0
3.=C2=A0 On the unique Tiger manifold, there is a number "DA21120."=C2=A0 I=
looked at some of the other exhaust manifolds the company produced, and th=
ey also have unique identifiers starting with "DA."=C2=A0 I submit: "DA" wa=
s likely used as the prefix of "Dartmouth Auto" part numbers.
=C2=A0
4.=C2=A0 Separately, to the best of my knowledge, no one has ever posted a =
photograph of the RT side exhaust manifold with "Barcast" in the logo.
=C2=A0
I intend to add the above information to the thread I started on the C.A.T.=
Forum.=C2=A0 The link to that thread follows:=C2=A0=C2=A0https://www.catmb=
r.org/cat-forum/threads/questions-regarding-original-rt-side-exhaust-header=
.8891/
=C2=A0
Best Regards,
=C2=A0
Bill Waite
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
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On Friday, July 5, 2024 at 07:40:24 PM PDT, Gary Wi=
nblad <winbladgary@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div id=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391"><div>I am curious=
why the Ford manifold needed<div>to be changed?</div><div>Gary W</div><div=
><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391lineBreakAtBeginningOfSig=
nature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div id=3D"ydpca456f4byiv=
8130754391yqt53978" class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391yqt5264023099"><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 5, 2024, at 4=
:53=E2=80=AFPM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:<br clear=3D"=
none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF</div></blockquote></div></div></div><div id=3D"ydpca4=
56f4byiv8130754391yqt75316" class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391yqt5264023099"=
><div><div class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydpca=
456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal">The Mk II part number changed to 1236160.&nbs=
p; I think this is just an updated number but it needs to be explored=
.</p><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"=
ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal">Anyone have a picture of the Mk II Rt ex=
haust manifold?</p><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal"> </=
p><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal">Ron Fraser</p><p class=3D"=
ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv813=
0754391MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Gary Winblad <winbladgary@gmail.com> <=
br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 04, 2024 9:29 PM<br clear=3D"=
none"><b>To:</b> Bill Waite <fordlandia@sbcglobal.net><br clear=3D"no=
ne"><b>Cc:</b> tigers@autox.team.net; Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com&g=
t;; Allan Ballard <aballard@ix.netcom.com>; owain.lloyd@gmail.com<br =
clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Rt exhaust manifold</p><p class=
=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class=3D"ydp=
ca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal">Same exact logo. It was DARCAST, no q=
uestion.</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal">Gary =
W.</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal"> </p>=
</div></div><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal"> </p><div>=
<div><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at =
5:11=E2=80=AFPM Bill Waite <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fordlandia@=
sbcglobal.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">fordlandia@sbcglobal.net<=
/a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-width: medium medium me=
dium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentcolor cu=
rrentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margi=
n-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;"><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byi=
v8130754391MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-seri=
f;">In earlier emails on the above subject, Ron Fraser has stated "<span st=
yle=3D"color:#26282A;">Norm Miller states BARCAST" and "Another believes it=
is DARCAST =E2=80=93 this is a UK Foundry that cast many exhaust manifold =
for British cars."</span> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpca456f4=
byiv8130754391MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-s=
erif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">The "anoth=
er" person Ron Fraser is referring to is me, Bill Waite (Tiger / Alpine own=
er since 1978). I have uncovered additional information today which c=
onfirms (100% in my opinion) that the logo on the Tiger's RT Exhaust Manifo=
ld is <b>DARCAST</b>.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv813075=
4391MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> &n=
bsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Ron said "We are loo=
king for photo proof or written proof to seal this case." Hopefully t=
he following information will include enough proof.</span></p></div><div><p=
class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpca45=
6f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:san=
s-serif;">1. Ends up that from 1915 through 1980 there was a company =
named "<b>Dartmouth Auto Castings</b>" located in Smethwick (UK). In =
later years that company operated three (3) separate foundries. It ends up =
that Darcast was not the name of any foundry. Rather Dartmouth Auto C=
astings used the<b> DART</b> in Dartmouth and the <b>CAST</b> in Castings t=
o create its logo: <b>DarCast</b>.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpca45=
6f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:san=
s-serif;"><br clear=3D"none">2. An October 1951 print advertisement (=
attached to this message) clearly shows the Darcast logo. Also attach=
ed is another print ad from 1965. That ad lists the type of cas=
tings they produced.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754=
391MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> &nb=
sp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">3. On the uniqu=
e Tiger manifold, there is a number "DA21120." I looked at some of th=
e other exhaust manifolds the company produced, and they also have unique i=
dentifiers starting with "DA." I submit: "<b>DA</b>" was likely used =
as the prefix of "<b>D</b>artmouth <b>A</b>uto" part numbers.</span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:sans-serif;">4. Separately, to the best of my knowledge, no o=
ne has ever posted a photograph of the RT side exhaust manifold with "Barca=
st" in the logo.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> <=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I intend to add the above=
information to the thread I started on the C.A.T. Forum. The link to=
that thread follows: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.catm=
br.org/cat-forum/threads/questions-regarding-original-rt-side-exhaust-heade=
r.8891/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://www.catmbr.org/cat-foru=
m/threads/questions-regarding-original-rt-side-exhaust-header.8891/</a></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Best Regards,</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byi=
v8130754391MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-seri=
f;">Bill Waite</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpca456f4byiv8130754391Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </s=
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