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To: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] 15" wheels?
From: Jay via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:44:33 -0800
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To be more precise, increasing/decreasing total TIRE circumference will =
impact MPG, acceleration and top speed.  Increasing/decreasing WHEEL =
circumference is irrelevant.



> On Dec 10, 2021, at 8:27 AM, GARY WINBLAD via Tigers =
<tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> Increasing total wheel/tire circumference WILL increase MPG...  More =
road covered for each explosion!
> Back in the day, I used to log every gallon that went through my Tiger =
and larger tires definitely give more MPG.
> Same as adding an overdrive trans.  But if you have a big cam, it =
might be happier turning more revs.
> Changing rear wheels for a road trip is easier than changing the trans =
or rear end gears!
> Gary
>=20
>> On 12/09/2021 2:08 PM Allan Ballard via Tigers =
<tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> I have a set of 15=E2=80=9D LAT 70=E2=80=99s still in their boxes.
>>=20
>> Has anyone determined if wheels in that size increase mileage?
>>=20
>> I enjoy the open road but 13=E2=80=9D LAT 70=E2=80=99s plus only 13 =
gallons in the tanks and a thirsty engine results in a limited range =
between fill-ups.
>>=20
>> In some areas that can be a problem.
>>=20
>> Thx,
>>=20
>> Allan Ballard
>> Mk1a Tiger
>> Series 1 Alpine (v6)=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>> On Dec 9, 2021, at 1:20 PM, Mark Rense via Tigers =
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Here is one of mine with 15" Minilites.
>>>=20
>>> My other has 14" and there is some really good rubber being made =
again for that size. Check out the Falken Azenis RT615K+.=20
>>>=20
>>> Bugz=20
>>>=20
>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 12:14 PM Jay via Tigers =
>>> As I=E2=80=99m sure many know, 13=E2=80=9D tires are getting harder =
and harder to come by.  In fact, the specific 13=E2=80=9D tires that I =
prefer for my Alpine with wire wheels is absolutely no longer available =
except from Coker at $250 a tire or racing Dunlops at $320 a tire.  =
Before I decide to spend $1,250 on tires for my Alpine, I=E2=80=99m =
thinking of alternatives.=20
>>>=20
>>> (1) Buy racing Dunlop tires - why the heck not? =20
>>> (2) Get MGB 14=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up tire selection a =
little bit.=20
>>> (3) Get TR3 or TR4 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up the tire =
selection a lot.=20
>>>=20
>>> The Tiger/Alpine was designed for 14=E2=80=9D wheels.  So those =
looks great.  But I=E2=80=99m worried that 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels will =
look silly.  Anyone have pictures of Tigers with 15=E2=80=9D, and can =
indicate what tires are on them?  I know it=E2=80=99s a totally =
different look with a mag wheel.  But I want to get a sense of how low =
profile the tires would be.  I=E2=80=99m hoping to keep the overall =
diameter at 23-24=E2=80=9D.=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> In case anyone cares, the MGB wire wheel hub does not match the =
Alpine one.  The TR hub does match.  The MGB hub is the same all around, =
except in the length.  So instead of getting 6 rotations of the knock =
off (for 6 threads) to tighten on the wheel, an MGB wheel on an Alpine =
gets 4 rotations of the knock off, for 4 threads.  There are a number of =
Alpine owners running this way and say they have never had a problem.  =
I=E2=80=99m not confident in that as a legitimate conclusion to rely on.=20=

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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">To =
be more precise, increasing/decreasing total TIRE circumference will =
impact MPG, acceleration and top speed. &nbsp;Increasing/decreasing =
WHEEL circumference is irrelevant.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Dec 10, 2021, at 8:27 AM, GARY WINBLAD via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">

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  <meta charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D"">=20
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  <div class=3D"">
   Increasing total wheel/tire circumference WILL increase MPG...&nbsp; =
More road covered for each explosion!
  </div>
  <div class=3D"default-style">
   Back in the day, I used to log every gallon that went through my =
Tiger and larger tires definitely give more MPG.
  </div>
  <div class=3D"default-style">
   Same as adding an overdrive trans.&nbsp; But if you have a big cam, =
it might be happier turning more revs.
  </div>
  <div class=3D"default-style">
   Changing rear wheels for a road trip is easier than changing the =
trans or rear end gears!
  </div>
  <div class=3D"default-style">
   Gary
  </div>
  <div class=3D"default-style">
   <br class=3D"">
  </div>
  <blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
   <div class=3D"">
    On 12/09/2021 2:08 PM Allan Ballard via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    <br class=3D"">
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    <br class=3D"">
   </div>I have a set of 15=E2=80=9D LAT 70=E2=80=99s still in their =
boxes.
   <div class=3D"">
    <br class=3D"">
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    Has anyone determined if wheels in that size increase mileage?
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    <br class=3D"">
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    I enjoy the open road but 13=E2=80=9D LAT 70=E2=80=99s plus only 13 =
gallons in the tanks and a thirsty engine results in a limited range =
between fill-ups.
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    <br class=3D"">
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    In some areas that can be a problem.
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    <br class=3D"">
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    Thx,
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    <br class=3D"">
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    Allan Ballard
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    Mk1a Tiger
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    Series 1 Alpine (v6)
    <br class=3D"">
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     <br class=3D"">
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      Sent from my iPhone
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     <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">
      <br class=3D"">On Dec 9, 2021, at 1:20 PM, Mark Rense via Tigers =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
      <br class=3D"">
      <br class=3D"">
     </div>
     <blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
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       <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">
         <br class=3D"">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">
         Here is one of mine with 15" Minilites.
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">
         <br class=3D"">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">
         My other has 14" and there is some really good rubber being =
made again for that size. Check out the Falken Azenis RT615K+.
         <br class=3D"">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">
         <br class=3D"">
        </div>
        <div class=3D"">
         Bugz
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          On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 12:14 PM Jay via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
          <br class=3D"">
         </div>
         <blockquote class=3D"">
          As I=E2=80=99m sure many know, 13=E2=80=9D tires are getting =
harder and harder to come by.&nbsp; In fact, the specific 13=E2=80=9D =
tires that I prefer for my Alpine with wire wheels is absolutely no =
longer available except from Coker at $250 a tire or racing Dunlops at =
$320 a tire.&nbsp; Before I decide to spend $1,250 on tires for my =
Alpine, I=E2=80=99m thinking of alternatives.
          <br class=3D"">
          <br class=3D"">(1) Buy racing Dunlop tires - why the heck =
not?&nbsp;=20
          <br class=3D"">(2) Get MGB 14=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which =
opens up tire selection a little bit.
          <br class=3D"">(3) Get TR3 or TR4 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels, =
which opens up the tire selection a lot.
          <br class=3D"">
          <br class=3D"">The Tiger/Alpine was designed for 14=E2=80=9D =
wheels.&nbsp; So those looks great.&nbsp; But I=E2=80=99m worried that =
15=E2=80=9D wire wheels will look silly.&nbsp; Anyone have pictures of =
Tigers with 15=E2=80=9D, and can indicate what tires are on them?&nbsp; =
I know it=E2=80=99s a totally different look with a mag wheel.&nbsp; But =
I want to get a sense of how low profile the tires would be.&nbsp; I=E2=80=
=99m hoping to keep the overall diameter at 23-24=E2=80=9D.
          <br class=3D"">
          <br class=3D"">
          <br class=3D"">
          <br class=3D"">In case anyone cares, the MGB wire wheel hub =
does not match the Alpine one.&nbsp; The TR hub does match.&nbsp; The =
MGB hub is the same all around, except in the length.&nbsp; So instead =
of getting 6 rotations of the knock off (for 6 threads) to tighten on =
the wheel, an MGB wheel on an Alpine gets 4 rotations of the knock off, =
for 4 threads.&nbsp; There are a number of Alpine owners running this =
way and say they have never had a problem.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99m not =
confident in that as a legitimate conclusion to rely on.
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